This is just too much. Netscape 4.x is old and dying thank god, but NS6 is
different and it is not going away.

Netscape was arguably superior until around the 4.0's (96-97?) when MS
started throwing tons of money into IE. Netscape as a company started to
stagnate as many of their top developers flew the coop, and incompetent
management took over, then AOL took over totally killing innovation. Then
someone decided to pour tons of money updating the 4.5 code when Mozilla was
first starting out, which delayed the transition to the Mozilla codebase.

While Netscape was busy stagnating, Microsoft has been busy building a pile
of non-standard garbage, that only runs on Windows and the Mac. There is
nothing at all exceptional about IE, except that MS has continued to invest
in it, and it lets lazy html developers eek by without knowing why their
code sucks. What many people dont realize is that all of this IE specific
code floating around is be a major pita when Microsoft decides that it's
time for the world to change and they release a whole new browser.

Microsoft has actively ignored most standards, and tried to corrupt the ones
that exist. NS6/Mozilla supports many more of the standards that the web
needs to develop for the future. IE's support of CSS1/DOM1 is laughable and
buggy with many features not implemented, while Mozilla is supporting up to
DOM2 and CSS2. Mozilla has even incorporated an irc chat client, which means
easy chat room building for us.

It is now IE's turn to stagnate, since v4 there has not been much innovation
at all. I am currently running IE6 Beta and there is nothing new that really
matters.

Mozilla also has the advantage of being open source. So guess what every
single internet appliance manufacturer is going to integrate? Most people
agree that appliances will be the majority of web clients in the future.Red
Hat and the rest of the Linux vendors should be moving over to Mozilla
within the next couple of months too.

I haven't written any more NS4.x code in a long time, and only make a
passing effort at compatibility these days. However the more I develop with
the standards in mind, the more I realize how bad IE is. I actually spend
more time working around IE bugs, and compatibility issues now, wishing
people would just go download Mozilla ;-)

....and Opera sucks, but it is superior IE as far as standards support goes.
I'll give it that.

jon
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stevens, Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 8:19 PM
Subject: RE: OT: NETSCAPE IS GOING AWAY! A Web Developer's Dream Come True !


> While I'm no fan of monopolies, I have been nothing but happy with
> Microsoft's browser. Netscape was a substandard product that limited web
> development and it's getting what it deserves if you ask me. It did a
great
> job of being picky about the code it worked with, which kept me in check
> MANY of times, but restrained us in many other areas. So here's a pat on
the
> back to those Netscape guys, go help Opera out, they're workin on a
heckuva
> browser there.
>
> Jason
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Bernard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 3:15 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: OT: NETSCAPE IS GOING AWAY! A Web Developer's Dream Come
> True!
>
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