Thank you. While this is truly a horrific thing, I have to ask myself "is a cold fusion technical discussion list the right place to discuss my feelings/anger/outrage over such an event?" And then I am forced to answer myself "No, it is not.", Afterall, I have friends, family, and other resources available to aide in venting. I'll be patiently waiting for the list to get back on track. Shawn Grover -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 3:47 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: (Admin) Please move OT to CF-Community I left the threads on CF-Talk alone so people could let out their feelings on this a little. It was a tragic event and talking is needed. I think that the time for leniency for this list has past. Please move the OT topics and discussions over to CF-Community. Lets try and get back on topic which is tech. I don't want to seem callous but we've got to get back into focus. > At a time like this .. on a COLDFUSION technical list, now we have a bloody > gun control flame war??? It's one thing to express feelings about the > murder and maimings but flaming each other about how many weapons you could > carry on a plane like a Bruce Willis movie is just disgusting. > > You guys make me feel truly sick. > > > Please Michael . can't you put a stop to this lunacy?? > > > Cheers, > Mike Kear > Windsor, NSW, Australia > AFP WebWorks > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 7:24 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Terrorism > > Paris Lundis wrote: > > I agree 1000% ... An armed public is a good thing. Responsible > > civilians with firearms and trainging to use them with needed will > > twart most incidents and have been proven to reduce the likelihood of > > crime... > > I wouldn't directly call suicidal terrorists 'responsible people', yet > they would be able to get firearms on those planes as well. > > > > Afterall, do you think anyone wants to mess with a gun, obviously 255+ > > people on those planes didn't. > > Fire your gun at a few windows and see how many people survive the > decompression. Of course you get shot very fast after that, but I didn't > see any last mminute parachutes on the CNN footage either today. > > > > People on planes are sitting ducks. > > True. > > IMHO introducing more firearms in airplanes is not unlike Mutual Assured > Destruction. However, when the concept of MAD was used during the Cold > War people sitting close to the red button were required to undergo > psychological testing. Introducing the concept of MAD in an airplane > without having people undergo psychological testing is MADness. > > Jochem > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists