While you make good points, here's one that should be considered...

I've not seen this person's name on the list much before, but then I haven't
been looking for it.  My point is, that everyone is a newbie at some point.
Someone who steps into the programming arena from some other walk of life
might now know the pitfalls to avoid.  I know someone who was hired by a
company to be their Microsoft Excel guru...she's very good with this stuff.
But somewhere along the way she started messing with ColdFusion, and now is
well along the way to being a very competent CF developer.  But her scope of
technologies is far more liited than, say yours or mine, because she's not
been exposed to it.

Could be she knows enough about viruses to protect herself against it, but
then it could be she relies on an IT department that's lazy, and isn't
protecting their systems as well as they could, and she doesn't realize it.
She sends mail to the list and zaps a few machines with a virus she's
caught, and it's through no fault of her own.

So, while it does get annoying to see problems like this, there are
extenuating circumstances sometimes.  I think we should just all be a bit
more tolerant of others' mistakes and help them to fix the problem when
arise.  We're all friends here (more or less) and the whole idea of this
community is to help one another. If the virus was spread maliciously, I'd
be singing a different tune, but there's no evidence of that, so I say let
it be and protect yourself properly.

Just my #dollarFormat(0.02)# worth.

Kevin Langevin
Web Guy In Charge
UsWebGuys
954-327-5780


-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Hannum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 10:58 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Hi


While removing the offender from the list may not be called for, I don't
agree that it "wasn't his fault".  We're all supposed to be programmers
here, most of whom are supposed to be professionals.  We represent the 98th
to 100th percentile of all internet users.  We, of all people, should be
aware of such problems, and be the first to use common sense and take the
necessary precautions.  We should be the ones who know best the dangers of
opening attachments and being careless on the net.  I guess I take a hard
line, but to me, when folks on lists like these repeatedly (and I don't mean
any one individual does it repeatedly, but repeatedly we see folks on the
list get infected) - I guess I have a hard time understanding that.  Nobody
on this list is any busier than me.  But I still feel it's part of my
job/profession to keep up on the latest security problems (and I'm a
developer - not a systems person) and be aware.  Folks should subscribe to a
few e-zines that will alert you right away when the worms, viruses and the
like hit, so you can update your anti-virus and be aware of what you might
see in your email.  Accidents can and do happen.  And when they do, the ARE
our fault.  There's no excuse . . .

OK - I'm off my soap box.

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Green" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 10:31 AM
Subject: RE: Hi


Why unsub him? .. It wasnt his fault he accidently fell prey to some morons
latest virus creation.

And you'd only get it too if you wasnt upto date with your protection.

But the list-mailer stripped it out anyway so whats the prob.

-+ SteG +- :)

-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Blum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 05 December 2001 14:50
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Hi


how about unsubscribing him?

> ----------
> From: Stephen Moretti
> Reply To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2001 9:44 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Hi
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> Someone slap this guy!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lon Lentz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 2:14 PM
> Subject: Hi
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> > How are you ?
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