Kind of like the military industrial complex driving the space program, only
with more naked people. Very effective analogy :)

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 6:25 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: OT - Porn sites have their uses


Michael makes a good point.  While we may or may not approve of the content
of porn sites - that's obviously a moral issue - the problems they face and
the techniques they adopt to solve them are interesting indeed.   For every
concern we might have about hacking or theft or unauthorised entry,  porn
sites have the problem tenfold.   I bet every problem you fret about,
someone in a porn site has solved it already.


While the morality or otherwise of adult sites is off topic here,  it's got
to be acknowledged that adult sites are driving many of the techniques of
web business along and very fast.  For example, it was the adult sites that
forced the development of techniques of handling images and thumbnails.
They were the ones to perfect credit card transactions on the net, they
drove password protection schemes (stopping people sharing passwords) and
many other things.  Not to mention streaming of video, and the benefits (or
otherwise) of popup windows, banners, the multitude of ever-more-creative
ways of driving traffic from one site to another, using the same content on
multiple sites.  They are the ones that are driving the supply of ever
increasing bandwidth.


And of course don't forget the constant back and forth battle between the
search engines and the porn sites is forcing the search engines to get
better at what they do, in order to keep porn sites out and the sites they
want in.


Then there are the less-savoury techniques they're developing.  Like
stealing bandwidth,  copyright issues that are being resolved in order to
stop the wholesale theft of images.  Then there is the scam I read about not
so long ago where a porn site grabbed a legitimate and quite high-traffic
domain name, and redirected it to their porn site.   People reasonably
trying to find out something about their electricity utility or some such
were suddenly presented with a porn site, which promptly opened half a dozen
windows for their other sites.


All these things -both good and bad - are driving changes on the web.   The
bad things cause the rest of us to develop defences against hackers and
unsavoury practices.  The good things give us all benefits we can employ on
our own sites.



We ought to be watching the developments in porn sites - not for titillation
but for professional education.   Those guys are way ahead of us in
technology.   And while I don't know for sure, I'd be willing to bet that
the real figures would show that at least 5 of the top ten money makers on
the web are porn sites.


Cheers,
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
AFP WebWorks




-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2001 6:30 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: OT(apologies)

For those who do not understand the reference, whitehouse.com is not a
government site. It is an adult site that uses the whitehouse name to get
people to come in. I can't say if it is using CF or not (I don't know) but
I do know programmers for adult sites who use CF for their work. A lot of
user and login managment is done in CF to protect these sites against fraud
(multiple people logging in under a single username).
While I don't approve of these sites, I do find the problems and solutions
that they face interesting.

At 02:21 PM 12/13/01, you wrote:
>Dude.  Don't post that in here.  I don't really think that's appropriate...
>
>(Not that I care, but someone else just might...)
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 9:51 AM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: OT(apologies)
>
>
>www.whitehouse.com
>
>On Thu, 13 Dec 2001, Kris Pilles wrote:
>
> > half.com victorias secret.com
> > New York State
> > New Mexico
> > Federal Government
> > Aol (corporate site)
> > Eminem.com
> >
> > Theres tons of them
> >
> > Kris Pilles
> > Website Manager
> > Western Suffolk BOCES
> > 507 Deer Park Rd., Building C
> > Phone: 631-549-4900 x 267
> > E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Moneymaker, Jon S CONT (WPNSTA Yorktown)
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 12:37 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: OT(apologies)
> >
> >
> > Ok, I have lurked on this list for some time now and remember some
> > time ago a brief flurry of activity about "who uses CF in the real
> > world." I seem to recall a list somewhere or an article someone wrote
> > about some of the big companies who use CF.... I was asked this
> > question the other day and could only come up with a couple....(I
> > choked actually).....
> >
> > any help would be appreciated.
> >
> > Ya'll (guess what part of the country I am in) are great....
> >
> > Jon S. Moneymaker
> > Network Administrator
> >
> >
>
>


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