Better hide under a "Bush" then :-) Mike Brunt Sempra Energy 213.244.5226
"For every action, there is an equal and opposite malfunction." -----Original Message----- From: Jeff Beer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 9:30 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: death of coldfusion Cold Fusion isn't dying, but I did hear from a very reputable and informed source, that the sky is, indeed, falling, in certains parts of Texas. -----Original Message----- From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 11:58 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: death of coldfusion Nick, The JSTL has been in development for about 18 months, and Macromedia (well, the JRun / Neo teams) is part of the expert group responsible for it. It's getting there, slowly, and does provide the basics (looping, conditional processing, variable assignments, etc) but it is not a complete and all-encompassing as CFML, nor will it be (it cannot provide simplified abstractions for all of the services included with CF, services not included with other servers). It is also not as clean and simple as CFML, and cannot be (the required use of namespaces, XML string typed, etc). Having said that, there is some overlap. And of course, every single JSTL tag is also usable in Neo. You can mix and match to your heart's content, because Neo supports JSP custom tags. --- Ben -----Original Message----- From: Nick de Voil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 31, 2001 10:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: death of coldfusion Ben, > Not to mention access to JSP tag and libraries (and other Java bits) What the the future of CFML versus JSTL? (For those who don't know, JSTL is the JSP Standard Tag Library, to be included in a forthcoming J2EE spec. It lets you write JSP code that looks uncannily like CF code) Nick ______________________________________________________________________ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists