I think you're confusing your Enterprise with your Babylon 5 Andy - CF
Express - limited but free, CF Professional - full version but does not
allow clustering, CF Enterprise - full version, but also allows clustering
and beaming stuff up.. :)

J

-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Ewings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 16:49
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being


I think people are confusing the CF Enterprise with the 1 user license.  CF
Enterprise is a version of CF server just with less tags supported.  so if
you are not using the full tag list then this may be your bag

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 04 April 2002 16:46
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being


You can use CF Express, but it is a little limiting, but CF5 is free as a 1
connection developmental server that you can install at home and use, but
only allowed 1 connection, which would be yourself. Well, I guess I could
use it for my personal home page as well, since I am the only one that ever
visits it, lol

Rob

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 7:34 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being

Where is this Free version of coldfusion. are you referring to CF Express?

Anthony Petruzzi
Webmaster
954-321-4703
http://www.sheriff.org


-----Original Message-----
From: Daye, Marianne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 10:36 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being


Pardon me!  I hadn't heard of CF Enterprise.  Hence the question "Does CF
have an equivalent?".  If I ever get to code in CF again I'll have to look
into that.

I don't know what it is you don't get, but as a part-time telecommuter, I
prefer not to have to rely on a remote server while developing.  As for
using the web site on the laptop, the application contains a lengthy survey
that relies on skip-logic; not something we would want to do over in another
format (gets expensive).

I have no interest in debating whether or not it's 'fair' that ASP is free.
For the young beginner or hobbyist, it's may be the only affordable option
to get started!

Yeah, I guess you can develop CF in Notepad as well; just never did. Scratch
that point.

Have a nice day!

Marianne

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 9:15 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being


1. PWS? What???? I don't get it. PWS is a web server. Sure ASP is built in,
but you can get a FREE Developer version of CF Enterprise and it can work in
conjunction with PWS. Where's the problem here?

2. Again if you install the free version of CF on the laptop I doubt this
would be an issue. Though I question having an entire web application on a
laptop. If anything I would have given them the information they needed in
another form and made life easier to upload data to the rest of the
application.

Sure you pay for CF, but we already knew this. Not everyone can have 75% of
the world's desktop so they can just offer things for free. I don't see why
you can't program CF in a word processor, matter of fact a lot of my
debugging is on notepad when I am offsite. Sure I love CF Studio, but it is
in no means required. 

I don't understand some of the issues you brought up here. Please explain
better.

Robert Everland III
Dixon Ticonderoga
Web Developer Extraordinaire

-----Original Message-----
From: Daye, Marianne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 9:11 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being


I have to agree that CF is easier and faster to use than ASP.  However, ASP
does have the advantage of PWS.  Does CF have an equivalent?  I started out
with ASP, then used CF for two years, and now I'm using ASP again.  I'm not
ecstatic about it, but I have found a couple of advantages:

1.  Thanks to PWS, if I want to work from home, I can just copy the ASP site
to my home computer.  With CF I had to work across a cable connection which
slowed things down a bit.  Of course, I have to access the database over the
network either way, but the web files can be retrieved and saved faster with
PWS.

2.  One of our web sites is not only used by people on-line, but also by
field personnel who use laptops, and have to upload and download data.
Thanks to PWS and MSDE, they will be able to use the same ASP pages as the
on-line users, while using DTS to transfer data back and fourth.  In a
similar situation with CF, we had to develop a separate Access application
for the field team members.

Some other more obvious advantages is that ASP is free and can be developed
in a simple word processor, if need be.  Microsoft is also a huge name,
whether you like them or not, and it doesn't hurt to know how to user their
technology.

Marianne Daye
Programmer/Analyst


-----Original Message-----
From: Thane Sherrington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 3:09 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF VS ASP <- let the trolling being


At 12:06 PM 4/3/02 -0800, David Schmidt wrote:
>If he's willing to fork the bucks for the training.  Grab hold, hang
on,
and
>take what you can learn.

A cold hearted approach (but I think wise) would be to get the training 
paid for, and then move to a company that is more reasonable.

T








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