Hi everyone - New to this list, so what better way to start chiming in on threads than an old standby issue - Cold Fusion - everybody's punching bag...
I'm only intermediate at CF, however I've been managing web development since January of 95. I've managed CF teams (had the pleasure of working with Michael Dinowitz at ANT Internet back in 96 and 97), ASP and JAVA developers, C++ guys, VB guys, and even managed a site where the programmer insisted on using FOXBASE for a real estate site! The concept of Business Rules really has NOTHING to do with the language used from a managers perspective (I've managed 400 friggin sites being built from the smallest mom and pop site to half million dollar systems and business rules are business rules that, given the right manager and development team, ANY of these languages would have been able to implement - the truth is, as so many have said, in most situations nowadays, you can build it in Cold Fusion faster, cheaper, leaner than in all the rest. Add tie-ins to the mix, and CF CAN be used for the biggest of the big. While the issue of speed, extensibility, security, and legacy tie-ins do come into play, there's nothing HOKEY about using Cold Fusion mixed with other compatable technologies where needed. Even in the biggest of the big sites, if CF is the primary language, and if it's only used for 85% of the code work and heavy lifting is shared with other technologies, that 85% CF is so much more worth the savings in deployment and lines of code that it's no joke. I had the pleasure of meeting with Sun Microsystem's IPlanet team back in the summer of 2000 - they were called in to evaluate a proprietary technology that my company had developed for componentized site automation that we were presenting to the head of Sun's eBusiness unit. I spent half a day doing my best to help their lead Java programmer understand how it was possible that my Cold Fusion team was able to build entire world-class best-of-breed components at the rate of five components for every ONE component his team was building in pure Java. He was lost. Clueless. Couldn't grasp it. Like trying to tell a AMA member Doctor that accupuncture really can help a person to heal carpal tunnel WITHOUT surgery. SO there you have it - I've seen it time in and time out - geeky guys who think they know all the answers and that THEIR language is better than Cold Fusion are just that - geeky guys with a closed mind and an arrogance that cause a manager like me would kindly ask them to leave quietly if they aren't able to back up their words with real world issues based specifically on their complaint. ______________________________________________________________________ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists