Yeah, but > and < are kind of no-nos when you are using such a tag oriented
language.  I gather that's why they don't use that.  I'd love the ECMA
syntax too, but I understand why they don't use < and >.  It makes their
parsing engine work better...  Guarantess that < is the start of a tag and >
is the end of one...  I think it also makes the color coding work better...
Try putting > inside quotes and watch the color coding in cf studio turn
awry...

However, what I'd like to see is for cf to allow for variables to be used if
they aren't declared.  Sort of like in PHP.  The variable $var1 exists as
null if it gets called.

Stronly typed variables are a pain, although they are good programming...
I'm lazy and could stand to loose some <cfparam> tags in my code.

-----Original Message-----
From: Yowell, Erik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 2:06 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF's Most Wanted ::


Personally, I don't know about any others, but I want my ECMA syntax for
CFScript (It can't be that tall of an order can it!?), perhaps reverse
compatability could be put in, but the GT-LT-thing bites me in the rear
constantly... I want my ++ increments!

Erik Yowell
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-----Original Message-----
From: Tyler Silcox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2002 10:05 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF's Most Wanted ::


(Features, that is...)

With all this talk of learning other languages to flesh out your portfolio,
and more importantly your knowledge, along with the looming release of
NEO/CFMX, I've been trying to think of the features that I currently miss in
my ColdFusion.  And I thought what better way to get Macromedia's attention,
then by creating a heated discussion among the leading, path-forging cf
users, which obviously reside on this list (yes, I'm buttering you up.)

It seams to me that we see some of the same issues puzzling new or begginer
users over and over again, or some great features that are available though
creative uses of custom tags are not readily available to those developers
hosting on shared servers.  And I feel that MM could easily add some nice
new tags or attributes to current tags that solve most everyone's problems
(and I know nothing is that "easy", but it'd be nice.)  I also know most of
us have submitted feature requests on MM's site, but the community never
really geats to chime in.  So what I'd like to do is gather up a few of your
ideas for improving ColdFusion just to let MM know what we're are thinking.
I'm also very interested in what other developers are thinking, and I'm sure
y'all are too.  

I know that timing probably isn't the best for their very, very busy brains
over in MM land right now, but there really isn't anytime better than the
present.

Here's some of the basic probelms that I've come across and that I've seen
pop up on this list over and over from the last couple of years:

cfmail/cfpop:
    Needs more stability, more power, ability to read and write multi-part
messages (at least), maybe kill the spool or move straight to the a Java
spool
    (with NEO's Java backbone, there really is no excuse not to revamp this
tag)

cfimage (new tag):
    Abilty to resize images on the fly, store in cache, read dimensions,
etc.
    (should be a cinch with Macromedia's expertise in graphic products [yea,
right])

locking:
    Needs to protect the server. Period.

cfgraph:
    Use flash to it's fullest.  The current tag is a start, but still weak.
Needs options galore.

cfdirectory:
    Please just give us one more attribute (filesonly=True, or type="file")
or update filter to accept type="file" or type="dir".  Those directory dots
irk me 99% of the time I use the tag.

c# support:
    I'm not even sure this is a possilbilty and it's probably a little early
to call for it, but something to think about.

And I know that a lot of these features are available as custom tags, etc,
right now.  But it's not always a feasible option for many developers who
are on a monetary or time constraint, or are just hosting on a public server
that doesn't allow custom tags.  (Honestly, I'm not trying to put anyone out
of business.)

NOTE: I'm also aware that some some of these things may already be
alleviated or improved upon in NEO.  For all the Beta testers and PDA hounds
out there, please do not jump in on this discussion and say "That's already
developed" and then the subsequent "You're not allowed to say that" and then
I have to say "Please keep this discussion in a pre-NEO context" etc, etc.
So, I'll go ahead and say that now, please keep this discussion to pre-NEO
improvements.  Although NEO is on it's way, please just submit features you
have thought and dreamt about prior to NEO, and future releases.

Anyways, I really think that the best minds in the cf community are hanging
amidst us, so please share your thoughts and ideas, and maybe we can make CF
an even easier, more robust, powerful product->

Tyler Silcox
email | [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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