Dave's comment about the application-centric/document-centric distinction is useful in looking at frames here.
Point taken about people being able to bookmark pages inside a password-protected site. I guess it's pretty straightforward to hold the initial request URL and pass it through the login form. But frames should be no obstacle in the CF application framework - if you're directing to a specific page *after* they enter their login details, should be pretty easy to load the main frame with the requested page once they login. For the record, as well, IFRAMEs are a W3C standard and are supported now in Mozilla/NS6+ as well as IE. Hoorah! - Gyrus ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - [EMAIL PROTECTED] work: http://www.tengai.co.uk play: http://www.norlonto.net - PGP key available ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shawn Grover" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 6:00 PM Subject: Frames Usage (was RE: Impending session timeout warning methods?) While I agree that traditional frames have their limits, they also have their uses. The key is to carefully consider their use. On one hand they allow you to quickly and easily create navigation structures that make sense without spending time/sweat to develop a similar system without frames. On the otherhand, they can be somewhat troublesome to use properly. Bottom line is that each developer has to make their own judgement on when/where to use frames. One thing I hate about frames, but understand it and can work around it, is the refresh problem. If I'm developing a page, and that page is contained within a frame, I have to remember to right click the frame, then do a refresh from the context menu. Doing an F5 or CTRL-R refreshes the entire frame, which forces me to navigate back to the page in question. >>- You cannot bookmark an individual page >>Good! People should always enter the site through the login page. The security system I typically use prevents users from viewing unauthorized pages without loging in - but it doesn't force them to always start at the login page and then navigate to the page in question. They can bookmark particular pages (when I'm not using frames), and the page will still be secure. (I think this is pretty basic, but if anyone wants to know how, contact me off list). If I don't need to worry about Netscape, then IFrames are VERY useful to provide updates and such without having to reload an entire page. My thoughts. Shawn Grover ______________________________________________________________________ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
