I agree, thanks for your help!

-Dustin Snell
Unisyn Software, LLC
----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher Olive" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 1:17 PM
Subject: RE: Firewall configuration for CF and SQL (sort of OT)


> putting the webserver in the DMZ is a good idea, since the majority of web
> server compromises are via port 80 anyway.  and the principle of the DMZ
> (isolated public servers such that, if they are compromised, they cannot
be
> used as bastion hosts for attacks) applies here.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bud [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 2:36 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Firewall configuration for CF and SQL (sort of OT)
>
>
> On 6/27/02, Dustin Snell [Unisyn Software, LLC] penned:
> >We are attempting to secure our network which was admittedly *not secure*
> >before.  So, we have purchased a 3COM Superstack 3 firewall which is up
and
> >running and seems to be working great.  I am wondering what the
recommended
> >topology should be for the Web Server (which is Windows 2000 Server,
> running
> >IIS and Coldfusion 4.5) and the SQL Server (diff machine, Windows 2000
> >Server, SQL 2000).  It seems to me that  the web server should be in the
> DMZ
> >(in front of the firewall) but  I  have the following  questions.
> >
> >
> >
> >1) Should the SQL Server be behind  the firewall?  The answer seems to me
> to
> >be yes - if so, what port do I have to open to allow communication
between
> >the Web/CF Server and the SQL Server so that they can still  talk to each
> >other.   Our intranet (LAN users) and website (WAN) users need to access
> the
> >same database.
> >
>
> I can't say I'm an expert my any means, but I have both my web server
> and SQL Server behind the firewall.The only access I allow to the SQL
> box is to TCP/IP on port 1433 for Enterprise Manager and the port for
> my Remote administration software, and then only from certain IP
> addresses. I won't let any clients access the SQL Server unless they
> have a static IP Address, which I haven't needed to at this point. If
> I get a client with dialup that needs to access SQL Server through
> Ent. Mgr., I'll cross that bridge then.
>
> Not sure why you'd put the web server in the DMZ. I have just the
> ports needed to be open for the web server, 80, 443, 21, 8383, 8484,
> (both for web mail) 25, 110, 53 (DNS and mail are currently running
> on the mail server, but I'm moving mail to a dedicated server in the
> next week or so). I block all UDP traffic except to port 53 (DNS). I
> only open the port for my remote administration to my IP address here
> at home. Once I get mail moved, I'll only have ports 80, 443 and 21
> and 53 open to the web server. Hopefully, I'll have the money one day
> for a dedicated DNS server and can close port 53 also. :)
>
> >
> >These other questions are more off topic  but help would still be *very
> much
> >* appreciated
> >
> >2) For servers in the DMZ, is there any rational reason for them to be in
> >the domain?  Wouldn't it  be more secure to keep those machines as
> >standalone (non-domain) machines so that  if they are compromised, all
> >domain machines are still behind the firewall?   The only  benefit I can
> see
> >to  keeping  them in the domain is group policy.
>
> Can't answer domain questions. My servers are all standalone.
>
> >Misc... even more OT:
> >
> >3)  For those running DNS servers in house, is  it customary for you to
> >actually have a dedicated DNS machine? Or do you, as we currently  do,
use
> a
> >server for dual purpose (maybe it would be an  FTP Server and a DNS
> Server).
> >Also, are there any "plug and play" DNS  "network appliances" available
> that
> >wouldn't require a $1000+ license of Windows 2000 server?
>
>
> I can't answer the appliance question, but I'm running DNS using Bind
> for NT. It's pretty simple and works well. You could probably get a
> cheap box running Linux and run Bind to avoid the cost of Windows.
> That's probably what I'll do when I move DNS off the web server.
>
> Hope that helped a little.
> --
>
> Bud Schneehagen - Tropical Web Creations
>
> _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
> ColdFusion Solutions / eCommerce Development
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.twcreations.com/
> 954.721.3452
>
> 
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