Paris (and others),

I like the optimistic tone of your message.  It brings me hope that I might
actually be able to pull this off.  I was thinking along the same lines that
a distributed solution with a powerful piece of mailing software would
probably be the best idea.  Plus of course, distributing the physical
machines across multiple networks.

If I get the chance to build this, I'm sure I'll be back to ask more
questions and also to share my observations as I develop the system.  If I
don't get the chance, I'll post the offer here for anybody else who is
interested.

---mark

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Mark Warrick ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Founder, Fusioneers.com / CTO, ZapConnect.com
Phone: 714-547-5386 / 714-667-0203 / Efax: 801-730-7289
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 3:32 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: 4 million messages per hour - is it possible?
>
>
> holly cow... 4 million geez...  I am not asking who this is for.. that's a
> gross amount of emails...
>
> First off, I haven't created such a tool...
>
> Let's talk about theory here...
>
> With CF you can expect how many simultaneous pages per second performance
> wise? 50-100 on a nice box with tight code.. optimization, etc...
>
> so let's be optimistic... 100 x 60 seconds = 6000 messages per minute
> 6000 per min * 60 minutes = 360,0000 messages per hour... per box...
>
> that's about 6 times the spool limit.. which is about 65k files...
> putting that aside...
>
> you need about 10-15 servers essentially with a distributed cooperative
> pooling mechanism to handle this... ideally...
>
> You also need a damn fast DNS or multiple local servers to reduce lookup
> times...
>
> Ideally, if you scrap the mail server need (which would be expensive,
> clogged, nightmare) and utilized a CF friendly mail server like iMS and
> ripped the mailing to a giant database table... had a scheduled event
> whereby each machine grabbed a range, worked it and recorded status errors
> etc to database and purged valid already mailed stuff or put in another
> table..  and talked maybe directly SMTP versus the need of a server well
> then it would be doable... recommend MySQL here... cheap and damn fast....
>
> but with the machines I mentioned... you might also need some
> good bandwidth
> considering the volume of mail and the potential size of the emails
> themselves...
>
> That's my input...
>
> -paris
> Paris Lundis
> Founder
> Areaindex, L.L.C.
> http://www.areaindex.com
> http://www.pubcrawler.com
> (p) 1-212-655-4477
> [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present]
> [connecting people, places and things]
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Warrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, July 01, 2002 6:15 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: 4 million messages per hour - is it possible?
>
>
> Hello,
>
> Has anyone had experience in creating an emailing solution driven by
> ColdFusion and SQL on any platform with any mail server that is capable of
> handling 4 million deliveries an hour?  If so, would you care to
> share what
> software you used to make it happen?  And do you have a live example of a
> company using the system?
>
> ---mark
>
> ========================================================
> Mark Warrick ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> Founder, Fusioneers.com / CTO, ZapConnect.com
> Phone: 714-547-5386 / 714-667-0203 / Efax: 801-730-7289
> http://www.warrick.net / http://www.fusioneers.com
> http://www.zapconnect.com
> ICQ: 125160 AIM: markwarric Yahoo: Serengeti
> ========================================================
>
>
>
> 
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