[cfaussie] Re: webDU 2007: 22-23 March 2007, Hilton Sydney

Wed, 11 Oct 2006 20:20:04 -0700

In a price comparsion have a look at the JavaOne 2006 prices ... in USD.
 
http://java.sun.com/javaone/sf/registration.jsp
 
I think Geoff at Daemon does a wonderful job promoting CF and related technologies. WebDU is an excellent concept and should continue in whatever city Geoff and the Daemonites decide on. It's their conference and I hope for their sake they do make a profit on the event. If a company from Melbourne put on a similiar conference I would hope they too can turn a profit. In the end we all benefit from the increased CF exposure.
 
I agree with Dale in that an Adobe roadshow would help promote CF but that would be a completely different type of event to WebDU. Moving WebDU is too me a really bad idea ... I live in Sydney, the CF capital of Oz ....
 
On 10/12/06, Darren Tracey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I think this is the core of the issue.
WebDU is not run by a major vendor is is not aimed at selling you more
product.
If that were the case, then yes, it should move around and semi
regularly be conveniently close to you.
If it were run by Adobe, its content would undoubtably be different (as
I've heard the content at Max is different from WebDU), and we would be
justified in expecting it to come to us occasionally.
But it isn't being run by Adobe, and when you go there, you aren't
having product shoved down your throat, which makes it a more valuable
event for you to attend, so any extra effort you have to make to get
there is justified.
It might be more convenient for you if it was held in the meeting room
just down the hall from your office, but in the bigger picture, it just
doesn't make sense.

Can I also say that, having been to a big conference that was just down
the road from my office, there is a lot to be said for getting
physically away from your office, and even your home for these events.
It forces you to have a much higher level of immersion in the whole
experience, and makes it harder for people back in the office to call
you back for trivial things that could have waited anyway, just because
you were just down the road.
Its so much easier to be insulated from trivial problems if you're
"interstate at a conference" than "just down the road today and
tomorrow and able to be back in the office with 5 minutes notice".
Also I've said this before, but I get as much from a WebDU outside of
the session, than I do from in the sessions themselves. This includes
the socialising with the big names in the industry, getting in their
ears, becoming familiar with them, and all these things. If I was at a
conference in Brisbane, the pressure would be there to be home at a
normal time after the last session, and all that interaction would be
lost. I really enjoy staying up with the people at the conference (who
shall remain nameless) until 3am, and I really do get a benefit from
doing that that makes my professional life easier. I just couldn't see
that happening if I was home.

Its also a bit of a commitment thing. The Brisbane people I see at
WebDU/MXDUs are clearly commited to their career path. They've either
put the effort into convincing an employer to pick up the expense
(which is usually not the easiest thing), or they've covered the
expense themselves (and people, it should be tax deductible. see your
accountant). Its great to see people that committed, and they always
come out of it glad they've spent (invested) that money in their own
careers.

And how much are they really talking about? $200 tops for airfares, and
about the same for accomodation? You should be able to get the airfares
cheaper if you don't leave it to the last minute, and the accomodation
costs can come way down if you share with someone, or do something else
to split the costs. and then you get some of it back from your tax.
Thats way less than you'll spend on a single day of training, and I
guarantee that you'll get that much benefit just from being in and
around the venue of the event (ie I'm not counting the session
contents).
If some training to advance your own career isn't worth spending that
much money on, then you aren't taking your own career seriously.

Darren Tracey
(sorry about the rant)




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