[cfaussie] Re: List of certified developers?

[Charlie Arehart]

I don't know that it will be fruitful to start a discussion of the value of
certs. That's been debated many times, and there are as many opinions. :-)
But I do want to respond to the comment, "But what would be the point if
Adobe wont let anyone verify they're certified". Again, it's not that you
can't verify it. Just that you have to do it by the certified person causing
the verifier to be sent a note. It's not a terrible system. Just difficult,
in my opinion, because some (like me) may not have the info needed to get
onto the site. They also mentioned (I forgot to say) that the offer to send
off notification is also made at the end of the test itself, also. Anyway,
that's what it is for now. 

As for why they hang on to the privacy concern, some may know that even MM
was pretty uptight about it. These are large corporate entities who have
much higher risks if anyone accuses them of violating their privacy. They're
going to err on the side of safety until a strong case can be made for
otherwise, I think. Still, again, I did say that they were reconsidering the
stance regarding publishing certs, so it's not a flat "no, they won't do
it". Stay tuned. :-)

/Charlie
http://www.carehart.org/blog/  




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From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Mike Kear
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 9:46 PM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: List of certified developers?


Thanks for taking interest in this Charlie.    Frankly, I think the people
at Adobe who are looking after certification have dropped the ball.    As
far as I can tell it's outsourced to someone else, who don't really seem to
be up to the task. 

The certification is devaluing day by day.   Privacy?  Piffle!  What about
the people who are certified and want to tell the world about it?   What
privacy concerns are there?    Someone who has achieved something worthwhile
wants to trumpet it from the rooftops.   Or even better, have some else
trumpet it form the rooftops on their behalf. 

The certification doesnt count for anything on a resume at the moment, and I
think it ought to.  A Microsoft certification counts but in all the
interviews I've had since i got certification not one person was interested
in it.  If it actually MEANT something, it would be a worthwhile thing.  But
what would be the point if Adobe wont let anyone verify they're certified.
Everyone could just save over a hundred bucks, a lot of time and months of
waiting for Adobe's contractors to mail out the meagre package by just
printing up their own certificates. 

Gaining the certification was definitely worth the effort in my part though,
because I had to learn about lots of little bits of ColdFusion that i hadn't
needed to know about before.   

But i have found the certification itself to be almost worthless. Pity,
because with a little bit of thought and commitment from Adobe it could be a
real asset on a resume.

Cheers
Mike Kear

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