OS'es are soo 1980's. Let me pay $800 for an open, web based distrubuted environment. I want my computer to be omnipresent.
the OS argument, like the browser argument, annoys me to tears - nobody argues over which sort of window or door they use in their house, and computer software should be the same - simple, reliable and common enough that everybody takes them for granted. they should be removed from the experience of producing something completely. this thread needs an OT: and possibly even an MS:... On 2/3/07, Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Yup. They may very well own the laptop market. > > Yet and another piece of tid bit, its been 5 years of silence in a sense > from Microsoft regarding Operating System for average punter (XP was pretty > much the last home user build OS. Windows 2002/2003 was more geared towards > business grade users). > > So in 5 years, Apple has been pretty much on the money yeah? releasing all > the fashionable hardware most love and enjoy (ie I use an iPod at work, and > yes people heckle me for it). > > Now that 5 years on, Windows Vista is launched and a whole stack of things > are behind it's launch (yet to make public debut), do you think Apple have > enough traction to sustain that movement? > > (I don't know the answer) just it's worth noting ;) > > > On 2/3/07, Andrew Muller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > And another interesting fact is that Apple have increased their market > > share of the US laptop sector to 12% and it's still growing, just the > > facts. > > > > On 03/02/07, Scott Barnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > *yawn* heard this one before, MS are evil, and something about Vader > > being > > > my father or was that a different piece of fiction? > > > > > > Its the facts. Didn't say there were right, didn't say they were > > wrong, just > > > the facts :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2/2/07, Tom Kerr < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Scott Barnes wrote: > > > > > Ok, Let's go to the numbers shall we as this will give hopefully a > > few > > > of > > > > > you an insight as to why I switched tracks over to MS and kind of > > kick > > > the > > > > > OSX argument in the butt. > > > > > > > > > > (Just the facts mam!) > > > > > > > > > > (Fiscal Year ending 2006) > > > > > HeadCount World Wide: 71,172 > > > > > Net Revenue: $44.28B (USD) > > > > > Growth: 11% > > > > > Net Income: $12.06B (USD) > > > > > Growth: 3% > > > > > > > > > > Market Share (Source: OneStat.com ) > > > > > Windows: 97.46% > > > > > Apple OSX: 01.43% > > > > > Linux: 00.26% > > > > > > > > > > - BetaNews.com reported that 22% of Installs of Windows were > > > "Non-Genuine" > > > > > - That means that People are more inclined to commit piracy or > > become > > > > > victims of piracy, before they'll touch Apple OSX (which isn't > > fair, as > > > > > certain countries have poor economic backgrounds and therefore > > Piracy is > > > > > easier and more likely to Occur - until now with Vista). > > > > > > > > That's one interpretation. Another is that Microsoft's monopolistic > > > > practises have removed choice from the market. > > > > > > > > > - Microsoft will only continue to Support Windows XP for 5 years. > > > > > > > > And the fact that existing customers are left in the lurch is good > > > > reason to purchase another of their products? What's the support > > period > > > > for Vista? > > > > > > > > > - Windows Vista has a minimum recommended specification (like XP > > once > > > did > > > > > etc). Which means folks with older machines will eventually need > > to > > > upgrade > > > > > ( like Windows XP days ). > > > > > - Given that Upgrades are likely to occur, I wonder what HP, DELL, > > > INTEL, > > > > > Toshiba, ASUS etc are all going to say about that and whether > > they'll > > > > > embrace the idea or prefer OSX gets installed? > > > > > > > > So businesses should buy-in, because they will be *forced* to > > purchase > > > > new hardware. Maybe I'm being unfair, your rhetorical question is > > > > rather open-ended. What *will* HP, Dell, Intel, Toshiba, Asus etc > > say > > > > about it? Surely you're not implying that they'll collude to > > restrict > > > > choice in the marketplace? > > > > > > > > > - Given that certain versions of Windows Vista has Media Centre > > > installed > > > > > mixed with Sanity Music, Bigpond onDemand, Kodak etc (local based > > > > > initiatives to start off with), I wonder what places like Harvey > > Norman > > > are > > > > > doing about this in terms of "Home Entertainment Division" > > (Especially > > > > > thinking along the Zune Player track and the per month > > subscription > > > model). > > > > > > > > Hang on, this is a bit of a jump. We're talking about home usage > > now? > > > > So home users should upgrade so that they can pay per-month fees for > > > > something for which they can currently buy a perpetual license. > > > > > > > > > - Given that XBOX 360 also integrates quite snuggly with Windows > > Vista, > > > what > > > > > does that also mean for places like Harvey Norman. > > > > > - Given that code base is easier to develop to for both PC and > > XBOX 360 > > > at > > > > > the same time, what do Game Developers think of both (could it be > > fair > > > to > > > > > argue that PC Game scene may also gain a surge in terms of > > marketshare > > > > > alongside console). > > > > > > > > DirectX is a steaming pile of snot. ;) It's also currently my only > > > > reason to run Windows on a desktop. The Cedega > > > > [http://www.transgaming.com/ ] guys seem to be doing a sterling job > > of > > > > removing that necessity. I haven't signed up yet, but the thought > > of > > > > Half Life 2 on Linux kinda gives me tingles. As does removing XP > > from > > > > the last of my desktops it's installed on. > > > > > > > > > - Given that you will be able to play (certain games of course) > > XBOX 360 > > > > > against PC Gamer online (Vista) won't that be a compelling > > arguement > > > (I'm a > > > > > mouse man myself, not a console jokey). > > > > > > > > Not really. As far as I can tell they're trying to use the PC > > online > > > > community to kickstart the equivalent for the console. > > > > > > > > > So, 5 years ago, Microsoft had around 50,621 employees, they > > gained > > > 20551 > > > > > there after, that and made more money and just released a > > significant > > > > > milestone in its profile since the migration from Windows 3.11 to > > > Windows > > > > > 95... > > > > > > > > > > Do people still think that OSX is going to sufficate or that large > > > > > businesses are going to move towards Linux or other. > > > > > > > > Do I think that businesses *are* going to move? No, not all at > > once. > > > > Do I think they should? Absolutely. More competition in the > > > > marketplace can only benefit we, the consumers. > > > > > > > > > I keep hearing the X-platform argument a lot lately and I keep > > thinking > > > are > > > > > the numbers I'm seeing different to what the others are seeing? 2% > > of > > > the > > > > > worlds population is a fair whack of eyeballs don't get me > > wrong... but > > > in > > > > > contrast to the other piece... > > > > > > > > > > That being said, if you companyX have an employee who loses their > > > laptops > > > > > (given laptops are highly visible in most coporations) do you > > think that > > > a > > > > > 6months or a year from now, DELL are going to sell new laptops > > with XP > > > on > > > > > it? I'd wager they'd move towards the Vista Pearl heheh. > > > > > > > > You're back to saying that "we" should upgrade because we won't be > > given > > > > the choice. ;) > > > > > > > > > I should mention that maybe the X-Platform plays a role, in that > > > > > macobserver.com reports that Apple Laptops make up 12% of the > > "Laptop > > > Market > > > > > Share". > > > > > > > > That reminds me, your "market share" figures up top, what segment do > > > > they represent? Do they include the small server market, where MS > > has > > > > historically been losing ground to both Linux and BSD? > > > > > > > > > I love the comics, I think they are funny and I too am a bit > > confused at > > > > > times about the pricing of our Products (heh) but realistically, > > jokes > > > > > aside, keep it in perspective. > > > > > > > > The pricing is but one concern of many. ;) For example this: > > > > http://tinyurl.com/2dxnph patent application, which to my eyes seems > > to > > > > be describing a way to divide an operating system into non-logical > > > > chunks, apply some "DRM" magic to prevent circumvention, and sell > > useful > > > > features at higher prices. Useful features such as the ability to > > run > > > > "an unlimited number of concurrent applications, up to the capacity > > of > > > > the hardware". Don't we already have that? Would such a model fly, > > on > > > > a level playing field? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Tom Kerr > > > > tjkerr "at" nextstudio.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Regards, > > > Scott Barnes > > > http://www.mossyblog.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Andrew Muller > > http://www.webqem.com > > > > > > > -- > Regards, > Scott Barnes > http://www.mossyblog.com > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
