On 3/14/07, Darren Tracey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mar 13, 7:58 pm, "Scott Barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I think you're suffering from too much sceptism and the only valid > > reason I can think of that would potentially be irrelevant to hosting > > within Microsoft is that can't be assed moving the meetings or that > > you're comfortable with the current place (either is perfectly valid > > and aok). > > Thats two points Scott. > 1. Scepticism. I've never claimed not to be a sceptic. Is it too much, > or am I just being cautious? Its not a descision that only effects me, > so I'll always err on the side of caution. > 2. Reasons for moving. You gave two actually. As I explained before, > at this point, we couldn't be bothered moving, because there just > isn't enough reason to do it that benefits the User Group, beyond it > just being a novelty, and secondly, we are comfortable where we are. > And as you said, they are valid and OK reasons.
Don't make me slap you... Yeah look, offer was made should you *need* it because of broadband issues etc. If you don't want it that's cool, offer is thee is all. *My expense reports thank you though*. Yet, to say you "can't do it" because of this Adobe vs Microsoft crap just irritates me as being ignorant ass response. > > I remember at the Flash Platform User Group you walked up and said > > "Adobe are coming here so if you need to leave let me know"... > > Seriously dude, you need to move past this Adobe vs Microsoft crap > > that you're somehow subscribing too as my metric within Microsoft is > > anything that touches a browser and pieces that support it. > > Scott, that quote has been taken grossly out of context, and you know > it. It was said as a joke, with a huge grin on my face, in relation to > other peoples attitudes, that you knew I wasn't subscribing to. Don't > start stooping to behaving like that or you'll be reinforcing the > attitudes that you are trying to change. > Microsoft is currently battling against its reputation for past > behaviours. You've got to change those behaviours, and keep them > changed, _without_exception_, before you can expect people to believe > you've really changed. Grossly? is that context to the context of the sentence? (heh) I don't have to change diddly squat. Peoples perceptions of Microsoft are varied depending on whom they are and the way the behave. I see a lot of people denouncing the Microsoft brand online, yet face to face they change their posture - which just confuses the crap out of me I must say. It's just a company, they have a stronger focus these days on "solution delivery" and less on "flog that product" as to flog the product is a short term win, it's long term wins we are after. I must confess as well, the metrics i have are like "How many developers have you spoken to in a year" answer: >500 .. congrats, here's your bonus. I make zero bonus/kudos if you *actually* buy into the products... i'm sure the sales team etc do but they have their own ways of doing that and ninja diving into a CFUG isn't one of them :) I've always called a spade a spade, if people irratate me - work be damned, i'll just poke holes in their theories simply because I can't suffer fools... It's probably the wrong attitude to have but overall at least you know where I stand on an issue instead of half-assed diplomacy ;) > Regards > Darren Tracey > > > > > -- Regards, Scott Barnes http://www.mossyblog.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---