Hi ppl,

 

I am both hands up for monthly CFUG meetings and even can do presentation on 
OpenID next time.

 

 

Best regards,

 

Dmitry Yakhnov

Technical Director

 

Yakhnov Studio

 <http://www.yakhnov.info/> http://www.yakhnov.info/

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From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark 
Mandel
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 11:29 AM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: OT: Melbourne CFUG

 

All,

I just got off the phone with Steve, we had a good chat, and things aren't 
nearly as heated as they seem to be in email.

Basically we've decided that we will share the load of running and organising 
the CFUG meetings between the two of us, and whoever else wants to help share 
in the responsibility. 

(Dale - willing to put your money where you mouth is and help organise 
presentations? :oD )

This may well be a relatively free form situation where there may be a roster 
to organise a presentation for the coming month(s), but I think it will end up 
being pooled into a combined effort. 

Steve and I both agree that there should be a return to monthly meetings with 
presentations - but there is often difficulty in organising people for every 
single month.  I think that between a group of us, this should mean there will 
be a variety of presentations on a variety of interesting topics. 

Steve and I discussed doing the next meeting post WebDU, so keep your ears to 
the ground for that.

But on that note - 

If *anyone* is willing to step and up and help organise presentations, please 
contact either me, or Steve, and we will coordinate our efforts together. 

Also if anyone is willing to do presentations on pretty much ANYTHING (high 
level, low level, CF related, Database related, Case Study, whatever), please 
contact me, or Steve, and let us know.  

This is the time to really get things happening people, but we really do need 
your help.

Regards,

Mark

On 3/15/07, Dale Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Steve,

 

I really hope that you're not upset, the tone of that suggests otherwise. I 
really hope that you still come and contribute to the meeting and I'm sure that 
all the regulars do also.

 

I agree with marks Monthly meetings and discussion type sessions, hopefully we 
will get good attendance and build the group.

 

PS: To all the slackers at my work who never attend, I want to see you there 
this year. You know who you are. I've also worked with lots of good people in 
the past who I know silently read this list and never comment, it's time to 
join in, you will learn some good stuff and meet some good people.

 

Regards

Dale Fraser

 

http://dale.fraser.id.au/blog 

 

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From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto: <mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com>  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Onnis
Sent: Thursday, 15 March 2007 10:40 AM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: OT: Melbourne CFUG

 

Its all yours Mark

 

Good luck with it all

 

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From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto: <mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com>  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Mandel
Sent: Thursday, 15 March 2007 10:35 AM


To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: OT: Melbourne CFUG

All,

First off, non of this should put down any of the hard work that Steve has put 
into the Vic CFUG, He's done an excellent job over the past few years.

But, Just to be clear on my position here, since people seem to enjoy talking 
on my behalf - 

*       I'm more than happy to be nominated for the Role of CFUG user manager, 
If, and only If Steve wants to step down 
*       I would honestly like to see a return to monthly meetings where there 
is a presentation each month.  I know this is a lot of work, but I have several 
ideas: 

*       Case Studies - people can present work they have done, and discuss what 
went well, and what went bad about it 
*       'Try a Framework' evening. Everyone gets together with their laptops 
and we all get a framework up and running and try out various things in a 
collaborative environement 
*       CF Certification Study groups 
*       Presentation on technologies (i.e. like what we have now) 
*       Multi-session free training on CF (even beginner stuff)

*       NGA.net is still available as a venue (tho we have started filling up 
the space we used last time, but I think we can find somewhere to do it), as 
long as people still like South Melbourne as a venue. 

I think that last year showed that there were plenty of people in the group 
that were more than willing to share their time and their efforts in doing 
multiple presentations, and they were great (big kudos to Bjorn for his Flex 
presos).  We should be able to capitalise on that and really get some momentum 
going.  I have to admit, it does seem a little stop-start. 

But at the end of the day, that is simply my *opinion*, Steve puts in a lot of 
work into the CFUG, and much thanks to him for the work he does, but I figured 
I would clarify my position, so that it doesn't get muddied. 

Mark

On 3/15/07, Steve Onnis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

For your information I am in the process or talking with the Microsoft guy 
about doing some presentations for us and organising other presentations as 
there is no point having meetings without presentations.

 

Last year I put it out there to have a meeting just to get everyone together to 
keep them going and no one wanted to come along.  So it is more of a 
realisation that unless there are presenters no one will come.

 

For me its less about presentations and more about the networking aspect.  
Presentations are a bonus, especially when there are new people wanting to join 
the group.  It seems that the remaining people that come to the meetings are 
somewhat advanced which I feel is deterring newcomers which is why I want to 
pull the meetings back and have more general stuff, which is why I am talking 
to the Microsoft group and other groups.  Stuff like a presentation on Vista 
and SQL2005 and stuff like that which are more information based rather than 
having technical topics like the FLEX ones, which even made my brain hurt.

 

For those who say "I'll only come if I like the topic" well that's not being 
part of the group really in my view.  You come because you want to be part of 
the group, not because there is a personal gain for you each and every meeting.

 

So my drive this year is new members, not existing members.  The existing 
members by the sounds of it based on the feedback already know the importance 
of the group and should be attending regardless of topics.  The important thing 
is growing the group again and getting new members and pulling back in the old 
members who haven't attended for a while, in both cfug and mmug.

 

Rest assured I am working on things, but it just doesn't happen by clicking 
your fingers, but if you all would like Mark to take it over I'll leave that up 
to him.  I know I have offered for him to take more of a part in the running of 
the group but he didn't really have the time.

 

Steve

 

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From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale 
Fraser
Sent: Thursday, 15 March 2007 8:54 AM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: OT: Melbourne CFUG

Ok,

 

I am interested in attending, I'm sorry to say it, but I think Steve is not 
running this effectively and is doing more harm good, while he is a hell of a 
nice guy and has been doing all the work, it took 6 months last year for the 
first meeting to be organized and we are 3 � months into this year with no 
news. I think there were only 4 or 5 last year in total, I attended them all 
they need to me more regular.

 

Now I've mentioned this previously and then a meeting gets organized, but I 
think that's not good enough any more and it's time to hand it over to someone.

 

And rather than beat around the bush we need to organize this. As the kind folk 
at NGA have offered their offices, I think it makes sense that someone from 
there run it.

 

I would like to nominate Mark Mandel to run the usergroup, he also attended 
every meeting last year and I know that he is both prepared to run it and would 
do a good job. But before this can happen, Steve really needs to step aside and 
then anyone else interested could step up also and we can vote if necessary on 
a new UG Manager. I think Mark also needs to publicly step forward and indicate 
if he would indeed accept the position if offered. 

 

Once again I would like to mention that I have respect for Steve and we all 
appreciate his efforts over the years, but believe strongly that the time has 
come for a change.

 

Regards

Dale Fraser

 

http://dale.fraser.id.au/blog 

 

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From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto: <mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com>  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lucas
Sent: Thursday, 15 March 2007 8:25 AM
To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com
Subject: [cfaussie] OT: Melbourne CFUG

 

Hey Folks,
i know that there has been a lot of offtopic chatter this week, so in an effort 
to drag it back on topic, I would love to hear from anyone who is interested in 
meeting for a Melbourne CFUG.

Now I know that there are people that have run this group in the past but it 
seems to have dried up so I am just really waving a big stick trying to work 
out if there is interest or if it is really dead and there is no CF in 
Melbourne. We kinda have a venue that we could use to run a meeting (it will 
cost us but don't let that put you off just yet) but before we go too far, i 
don't want to tread on toes... 

I would love to meet up and chat, shoot the breeze or even talk CF with folks. 
I will be at WebDU if you are interested i reviving the CFUG in Melbourne

ok, that is it for now...
I am going to go and program now, on an non-adobe operating system, on a 
computer not built by adobe, in a tool not built by adobe, in a language that 
is not CF - so I am really going to go to hell (sorry scott) 

-- 

Lucas

http://www.thebitbucket.net








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