Hi Matthew,

I was refering to the Max Refresh on October 31 which was free as
well, though it was one big wrapup of Max by the local Adobe staff. It
was held after the Masterclass Photoshop session. It was held at one
of the event rooms at telstra dome.

Cheers,
Chong

On Nov 23, 11:45 am, Matthew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi KC Kuok,
>
> I have disagree that the 2 conference should become one. I know for me
> personally that the cost of attending MAX and being to busy was why I
> didn't go. The fact that CFCAMP was free and just around the corner
> meant that I could pop in and out for the session I wanted. If I had
> to pay for it I wouldn't have been able to justify only attending half
> of the day.
>
> Anyway, that's just my 2 cents worth. I hope that CFCAMP will run
> every year!
>
> BTW: perhaps Adobe could take a leaf out of MS book and market CF
> differently to grow the community (easy to say, hard to do). But this
> could be a double edged sword; because if there were more CF
> developers out there than we'd be worth less $$$... we just need to
> keep it balanced between a mature decent sized community VS every man
> and his dog claiming that he can program in CF and diluting the
> market.
>
> I'm off to have a look at TransferORM now.
>
> Cheers
> Matthew
>
> On Nov 23, 11:25 am, KC Kuok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > All the speakers were much appreciated, but especially those from
> > overseas... can't wait for the slides from the talks to be put up, I
> > will probably most need the one where CF is a platform that can sit
> > and "speak" to the other technologies (like .Net, MS Exchange, etc)
> > and adobes own Flash/Flex, Acrobat generation stuff. To show my
> > management that CF has more depth and advantages then what .Net will
> > offer. (TBH i never thought of CF that way, as a platform rather than
> > a web language, abit of marketing there but it is true)
>
> > I think many businesses will move to an all windows platform because
> > most of management are not involved in the day to day development
> > processes, and because of the marketing dollars MS puts in this part
> > of the world, comparatively people will start believing MS is the best
> > option (and sometimes the only option). CF is too good to be "our
> > dirty little secret". Such events will help to grow the community in
> > this part of the world, and also the visibility to the decision
> > makers.
>
> > Though I do reckon the events should be planned a little more in
> > advanced and have a bigger profile. E.g. the MAX refresh(?) and CFCAMP
> > this year were fairly good this year, but would have been better if
> > both were held together across 2 days? I understand that it was abit
> > of a rush this year, but it could be a mainstay annual event for the
> > major cities. WebDU is good, but not everyone can make it every year,
> > due to monetary and scheduling reasons, it may scavenger WebDU in the
> > short run, but in the long run, a bigger CF community can't hurt.
>
> > In the years to come, CF and Flex developers will be the one, Adobe
> > RIA developer ? (any such combination title yet?, via adobe
> > certification of course) It seems there are certifications for being
> > an instructor only for Flex and CF, that the only way to go now? Does
> > anyone know when the CF8 certification is out? And is there any for
> > Flex in aus yet?
>
> > On Nov 23, 10:28 am, "Barry Beattie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > George, the best bit is the breath and depth of Adobe technology.
>
> > > as the guys at the camp said (esp at the start with Adam) is how
> > > ColdFusion is part of a whole lot of Adobe stuff... Flex integration,
> > > LiveCycle Data Services is only the start.
>
> > > Don't just look at ColdFusion, look at the "Adobe Technology stack",
> > > of which ColdFusion is right in the middle of.
>
> > > On Nov 23, 2007 9:23 AM, George Lu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > Thank you everyone who organised this great event. I was very enjoy it 
> > > > :).
>
> > > > My management wants to move our IT environment to Microsoft platform. 
> > > > I'll
> > > > convince my manager ColdFusion is still a decent and edge technology.
>
> > > > PS. I'm still waiting for CF8 (we have subscribed)
>
> > > > On 23/11/2007, Matthew <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
>
> > > > > Thanks to all those involved in organising CFCAMP in Melbourne
> > > > > yesterday. I could only spare time to come to 3 of the sessions and
> > > > > found them all very informative! I'm sure a lot of work goes into
> > > > > organising an event like this, as well as speakers sacrificing their
> > > > > own time to prepare and give and talk. I'm inspired to talk my boss
> > > > > into getting CF8 ASAP!
> > > > > Cheers
> > > > > Matthew
>
> > > > > On Nov 23, 8:45 am, silverbeetle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > This was the first Melbourne CF event that I've attended and i must
> > > > > > say i really enjoyed the day.
>
> > > > > > Can't talk long right now but i just wanted to say a big thanks to 
> > > > > > all
> > > > > > those involved for making this day happen and of course the 
> > > > > > fantastic
> > > > > > presenters. And thanks to the people i did get to speak to for being
> > > > > > very welcoming and friendly.
>
> > > > > > Looking forward to future CF events and making my way (finally) to
> > > > > > some user group meetings!
>
> > > > > > Cheers
>
> > > > > > Chris Silwedel
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