Joel, To some degree you are right about them being sales people, but at the end of the day it's the product that they are selling and that comes from the client and what requirements they are looking for.
We struggled to get decent J2EE developers, and even though there is an abundance of Java developers out there. We told our recruiters specifically what we wanted. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd. www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 9015 8628 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -----Original Message----- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joel Cass Sent: Tuesday, 8 April 2008 9:39 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: recruters say "CF on the way out"? ... FFS! not FUD from them too? I agree with most of that but on the topic of recruiters - they are just sales people and I wouldn't take them seriously. They have a position to sell to the client, not just you. Say they were selling fridges. You can get the super duper models with the ice machines and built in tv's and then you have your everyday run-of-the-mill fridges. You come in wanting a super duper fridge but all they have is run-of-the-mill fridges - they still want their commission so they will try and sell you an everyday fridge. Now replace everyday fridge with PHP and super duper fridge with ColdFusion, and that explains why they are taking the "CF is on it's way out" pitch. But let's not go into this *monthly* debate again. Nobody knows if it's on the way out. As long as people keep coding and doing good work (e.g. maintainable projects) than it will be here to stay, whether Adobe shelve the technology or not. My two cents Joel Cass -----Original Message----- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of KC Kuok Sent: Tuesday, 8 April 2008 9:25 AM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: recruters say "CF on the way out"? ... FFS! not FUD from them too? Hi Barry, I think the general feeling is that CF in Australia is on the way out. But for us that keep up to that on the global front know that it will be here to stay. Unfortunately for us it seems CF is not being used as extensively as it should Down Under. The shortage is due to a few factors, most important of which is 1) there are not enough good CF- ers to go around, lets be honest you can get away with spaghetti code in CF, which is a double sided blade. 2) There are not enough companies willing to take on new coders without any prior CF experience and 'train' them... 3) Which leads back to business decisions being made that it is easier (and cheaper salary-wise/ contract-wise) to carry out a project in PHP, as you have a big pool of novice-intermediate PHP coders compared to CF coders. I think for Australia at least, if Adobe 1) Does not enforce lower pricing for CF hosting by their hosting partners 2) push CF to Unis 3) review pricing strategies to gain critical mass, In the long run no matter how great the forthcoming versions of CF is going to be, only big MNCs will use it, and unfortunately their coding teams are usually not based in Australia, hence CF will probably keep becoming sidelined in Australia while others continue to grow. Just my 2 cents :) On Apr 7, 10:27 pm, "Barry Beattie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - came across another recruter today (deliberatly not saying who) who > straight-up said that CF was on the way out. > > and yet they (recruters) are looking for CF'ers and can't easily fill > the positions they've got on their books, converting PHP'ers to fill > positions, and in one case, getting apps made (for their recruting > business) in CFML. > > sigh... --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
