programming - the act of creating software or some other set of instructions for a computer. ([online] http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/readinessguide/glossary.html Accessed: Tuesday 6 May 2008 1:18am)
n) language, linguistic communication (a systematic means of communicating by the use of sounds or conventional symbols) "he taught foreign languages"; "the language introduced is standard throughout the text"; "the speed with which a program can be executed depends on the language in which it is written" ([online] http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=language Accessed: Tuesday 6 May 2008 1:18am) It seems by looking at these two definitions programming, and language, a programming language is anything that communicates with the computer to give instructions, or rather routines. It seems that all you really are arguing about it where and what level is the abstraction at, and how many levels above the Assemble language is it. Cheers Patrick McGLYNN On 06/05/2008, at 1:02 AM, CyberAngel wrote: > > Dale, > > If we go by your words of wisdom, php, jsp, ruby, RoR to name a few > are > Application Servers. > > Application servers are what I call IIS, Apache, TomCat, WebSphere > and JBoss > to name a few. > > None of these actually allow you to do any programming, Coldfusion > is a > scripting language that is a markup language that needs something > else to > deliver the content (Which is the role of an Application Server). > > Now under IIS and Apache, Coldfusion needs connectors which help > connect the > runtime to the Application Server for the standard version of > Coldfusion. > However in the enterprise version of Coldfusion, it requires an > Application > server to run the coldfusion code, such as JRun, Tomcat, JBoss > WebShere, > etc. > > So by that, Coldfusion can't be called an Application server and a > programming/scripting language in the sam breath either. By your > definition > we should be calling .Net framework an Application Server then too, > or even > Java and perl, and cgi based applications. > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf > Of Dale Fraser > Sent: Tuesday, 6 May 2008 12:55 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Isn't a Programming Language? > > > No I disagree. > > JRUN is a Java Application Server. But something that sits on top of > Java > can also be an application server and then Java is just the > technology. > > You need to look up what an application server is. This wiki will > help. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_server > > "Following the success of the Java platform, the term application > server > sometimes refers to a Java Platform--Enterprise Edition (J2EE) or > Java EE 5 > application server." > > ColdFusion is the server product, the thing that serves your > application's, > the application server. > CFML is the syntax used to create your applications. > > Thus ColdFusion is NOT a language, never has been. The same way > that .NET is > not a language (VB, C#), Google App Engine is not a language > (Python) etc. > > ColdFusion could easily add support for another language, such as > ActionScript, which further highlights that ColdFusion is NOT the > language. > > Regards > Dale Fraser > http://learncf.com > http://flexcf.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf > Of CyberAngel > Sent: Monday, 5 May 2008 10:24 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Isn't a Programming Language? > > > Actually Dale, you are wrong it is not an application server. > > JRun is an application server, and Coldfusion runs on top of Jrun > and a very > cut down version in the standard version. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf > Of Dale Fraser > Sent: Tuesday, 6 May 2008 12:21 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Isn't a Programming Language? > > > Well, > > ColdFusion is NOT a programming language, it's an application server. > CFML IS a programming language and a complete one, I have written > complete > applications in it, wholesale distribution, inventory, etc. > > But it's just ColdFusion's bad rep getting it's tyres blown out > again, but > I'm not worried as this will all be fixed when ColdFusion 9 supports > ActionScript and they rebrand ColdFusion ActionScript server. > > :P > > Regards > Dale Fraser > http://learncf.com > http://flexcf.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf > Of Chris Velevitch > Sent: Monday, 5 May 2008 10:11 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [cfaussie] Re: ColdFusion Isn't a Programming Language? > > > So why is PHP still on the list? > > > Chris > -- > Chris Velevitch > Manager - Adobe Platform Users Group, Sydney > m: 0415 469 095 > www.flashdev.org.au > > Adobe Platform Users Group, Sydney > May meeting: tbd > Date: Mon 26th May 6pm for 6:30 start > Details and RSVP soon > > > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. 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