Yes paying by the hour is great but when you are using them as production instances which need to be up 24/7 then the paying by the hour doesn't really come into it.
On Sep 8, 3:35 pm, Blair McKenzie <shi...@gmail.com> wrote: > As far as I can tell there are three main advantages of "cloud" > infrastructure, and others have already mentioned most of them: > 1) you don't have to manage your own hardware > 2) pay by the hour - good for development, and ties into #3 > 3) you can bring up new instances effectively instantly - both adding more > servers to handle load, and removing unused instances to reduce cost > > If you don't need for any of those, then you probably shouldn't go with EC2. > > Blair > > On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Steve Onnis <st...@cfcentral.com.au> wrote: > > my disaster plan is an open ended ticket to mexico! :) kidding > > > bi-daily backups etc.... > > > The thing is even with all those backup plans it just adds more to the > > costs of running in a cloud. > > > On Sep 8, 12:50 pm, Barry Beattie <barry.beat...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Steve: > > > > what's the Data Center's/your's disaster recovery plan?** > > > > How critical is it for you to deliver, say, 99.5% (or whatever in your > > > SLA) uptime to your customers? > > > > no criticism, not having a go, just curious if these are factors to > > > consider (what you've got Vs what EC2 can do for you). > > > > me: no affil/bias either way. > > > > B > > > > ** IIRC, there were a couple of P-o-P's inside the WTC ... until Sept > > > 11, that is (it's all about managing risk... and sometimes mitigating > > > all the risk just costs too much to be competitive in business) > > > > On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Steve Onnis <st...@cfcentral.com.au> > > wrote: > > > > That's just it though. > > > > > I own all of my hardware outright, so the only costs at the moment for > > > > us is the data centre costs which current is a little over 2k a month > > > > and includes 100 Gb of data. I have full control of security, > > > > firewalls, the servers, environments and if needed i can walk up to > > > > the server, plug a USB drive in and either do backups or transfer > > > > large amounts of data to my servers. I have a full rack available to > > > > me and i agree that if i was looking to expand, then the cost of > > > > hardware will be more than a new instance in the cloud. > > > > > Looking at the figures starting out fresh, the TCO is much higher with > > > > the typical data centre infrastructure on a hardware level and > > > > possible hardware maintenance level but the ongoing costs of a cloud > > > > seems to be just as high or higher than traditional data center > > > > services for running systems. > > > > > Yes cloud scaling is nice but when then ongoing costs of basic > > > > infrastructure ends up being more what would be the compelling > > > > argument to move to a cloud? > > > > > Steve > > > > > On Sep 8, 11:43 am, Chong <kck...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> I have an ex colleague that work projects uses EC2... how do you > > arrive at > > > >> 450-500 per instance excluding data? > > > > >> With my discussions with him and a few others, it is very hard to > > estimate > > > >> your actual usage till you get on it. > > > > >> For me the potential lies in > > > > >> - Ability to exist beyond different regions (the likely hood of all > > the > > > >> datacenters going down in all the region is very very small) > > > >> - scalable (you can switch the instance type, and I also believe > > there is > > > >> the ability to create/increase capacity via code/conditions) > > > >> - Not needing to worry about hardware > > > > >> So for my understand so far, for you to get maximum benefit from EC2 > > is to > > > >> architect the app/site whereby it can exists between different > > "regions" , > > > >> know how to interface with EC2 to scale when needed... not needing to > > worry > > > >> about hardware is common with any hosting provider, cloud or non > > cloud. > > > > >> Besides the fact that it is cheaper, due to scale of economics. > > > > >> Just my uneducated 2 cents :) > > > > > -- > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > Groups "cfaussie" group. > > > > To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > > > For more options, visit this group athttp:// > > groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "cfaussie" group. > > To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "cfaussie" group. 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