>> After all, the new company has to promote and develop ColdFusion. 
>> Where are they going to find ColdFusion people? 


and to follow on from Mark, yes, dynamic documents and forms is a big reason 
for all of this (so I've been able to work out) which means that server 
technology will be right up there.

AFAIK, Adobe has no one with *web* server technology experiance in Australia to 
the level that MACR has. We people who use MACR server technology aren't really 
interested in the rest of the Adobe product line - (chime in 
FOP/iText/cfdocument...) so there's no one from there that can really help us 
in the products we use. Marks' directly involved with server technology - 
that's too much expertise to loose. 

In fact I predict Mark's role will expand to incorperate even more server 
products to support (sorry about predicting more work for you, Mark, but you 
have to admit there's a good chance you'll be the bunny on the spot when Adobe 
come to push the latest whiz-bang offering...)

anyhoo my 2c
barry.b



> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of 
> Mike Kear
> Sent: Wednesday, 20 April 2005 7:31 AM
> To: CFAussie Mailing List
> Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Bye bye Mark and co...
> 
> 
> I posted earlier that there are winners and losers in these things. 
> I've been through a lot of these upheavals, and every time, folks have
> said 'well he's gonna go that's for sure, and so's he,  and so's she",
> and every time, surprises have resulted.
> 
> When they come to put these two organisations together in Australia,
> there will be duplications and some people will find new career paths.
> 
> But you can't say just because Adobe are buying Macromedia, that they
> wont need any of the current MM staff.  that's ridiculous to say and
> Peter it was wrong of you to say so.    Whoever is in charge
> afterwards (and it won't neceessarily be the Adobe head guy) will
> assess all the tasks he's got to fill, and look at the total
> collection of people he's got to choose from.
> 
> After it all settles down, there will be some Macromedia people and
> some Adobe people in the new combined company.    Some of the Adobe
> people will quit,   others will go, and the same with some of the
> Macromedia people.   Probably most of the new company will be Adobe
> people, but it's by no means a given.
> 
> After all, the new company has to promote and develop ColdFusion. 
> Where are they going to find ColdFusion people?   Macromedia isnt fat
> with overstaffing - they'll need almost all of those people to do the
> tasks that'll still need doing.
> 
> It's FAR too early to make predictions about who will stay 
> and who will go.
> 
> 
> Cheers
> Mike Kear
> Windsor, NSW, Australia
> Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
> AFP Webworks
> http://afpwebworks.com
> ColdFusion, PHP, ASP, ASP.NET hosting from AUD$15/month
> 
> 
> 
> On 4/19/05, Peter Tilbrook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Well it isn't gloating - check the press - MM have less 
> than 10 staff in Oz
> > and Adobe less than 20. I reckon most of MMAusPac's better 
> staff have
> > already moved on (some as far as London).
> > 
> > And welcome to the real world where you get promoted and 
> your workmates get
> > the boot.
> > 
> >
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