I've always wondered what "service" means in this context - comment service.
I hear references sometimes to the service layer, or a "_____" service in an
app and although i get the general sense, i'm wondering what distinguishs a
service from anything else.

I like this general concept better. I just ran into this here, specifically
with "comments". I originally built it coupled with content versions, but
the moment it appeared in the app, a user asked if they could add a comment
to a page. My hand hit my forehead in less than a second. (Why didn't i
couple comments and versions like that!!!)

I'd also say that i've found that EDITING and RENDERING are 2 very different
things in an app of this nature, and gradually i've learned that it's
important to treat them separately. Perhaps this seems academic at first
glance, but i ran smack into that distinction as soon as i tried to code my
first attempts.

RenderPage, to be flexible and efficient, shouldn't need to traverse a
changing sea of hierarchy to throw a page together. And users can only deal
with one bit of content at a time. All these things imply, in my limited
experience, that components of a page shouldn't be tightly coupled. How to
accomplish that in a well constructed model is a bit of a challenge.



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boy, this discussion is getting busy.

Another thought is to create a comment service that anything could
use.  For instance you might have a photo that needs comments.  Then
your photo functionality could register with the comment service.
Likewise your articles.  Maybe you want to post some documents on your
site and let people comment on them.  Then you have a document manager
that registers with the comment service. (technically, a photo is just
a document afterall).

plus, with a comment service you could use the onc service across many
apps including the blog without havnig to recreate comment
functionality each time.  The service could provide the form for
posting the comment and everything if you wanted it to (which you
could then style to fit in your sites look and feel).




On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 11:46:56 -0500, Brian Kotek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thoughts on why that would be better or worse than this in the manager:
>
> public void addComent( int articleID, commentTO commentTO ) {
>  commentDAO.save( articleID, commentTO );
> }
>
> In that case you don't need to call the articleDAO at all, nor is the
> article responsible for doing anything with the comment. And if you had
> the articleID as part of the commentTO you could actually just do:
>
> commentDAO.save( commentTO )
>
>
> > >From the ArticleManager's point of view, this is all that happens:
> >
> > var article = ArticleDAO.getArticle( articleID );
> > var comment = article.addComment( commentTO );
> > ArticleDAO.createComment( comment );
> >
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