Its interesting that you prefix them all with Dao, is there any  
reason? I would think you'd have a User object and then a UserDB,  
UserLDAP, UserFS, etc.

On Jan 10, 2008, at 4:06 PM, Baz wrote:

> I ran into a similar situation recently where I had a USER business  
> object that partly gets populated from an SQL DB and partly from  
> our LDAP. I decided to make the read() function of my DAO interact  
> with both my database and the ldap to populate my business object -  
> and it's working very well for me - because any adjustments I have  
> to make are nicely localized. The rest of the model simply says  
> "populate my USER object" and the DAO does the rest. As long as I  
> return a populated DAO everyone is happy.
>
> One thing I may do, depending on how complicated things get, is to  
> compose my DAO of other objects that specialize in each piece, such  
> as: UserDaoDB, UserDaoLDAP, UserDaoFileSystem (I'd probably name  
> them differently) but thats more of a code organization concern  
> because the primary UserDAO would be the only entry point to those  
> other objects by the rest of the model.
>
> Cheers,
> Baz
>
>
> On Jan 10, 2008 3:48 PM, Derek P. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I feel like getting made fun of, so I'll put my two cents in.
>
> Discussing a Model and a DAO interchangeably is sort of an  
> interesting idea. If we were thinking in terms of a Genre object  
> like Ray seems to be in his examples, It makes perfect sense to me  
> to have the upload process be part of his Genre object. Now, if his  
> Genre also implemented some functionality (say it extended the  
> "BaseDAO" class) that allowed it do do all the CRUD stuff  
> autonomously, you could just implement specialty functionality like  
> uploading by implementing your own create() or save() function that  
> references the parent's abilities and does your special need (like  
> an upload).
>
> there is a lot of focus in CF about having Data Access Objects that  
> are these (in their own right) autonomous, slightly specific,  
> database access objects that don't seem to really provide you a lot  
> of functionality.
>
> ...or maybe I am missing something.
>
>
> On Jan 10, 2008, at 3:32 PM, Tom McNeer wrote:
>
>> I don't think there are actually any disagreements here. Dan's  
>> exactly right, and that's what Jaime and I are saying.
>>
>> And yes, Jaime, I did allow myself to leap to the usual CFer's  
>> interpretation of a DAO, against which Sean Corfield rails  
>> mightily, frequently, and correctly. But I think including  
>> filesystem work as part of a DAO (regardless of acronym  
>> interpretation) is a bit of a stretch. Of course, that's exactly  
>> what you were doing: stretching on purpose, to make the point.
>>
>> Besides, Ray Camden started this thread. I'm just happy I can even  
>> comment in a thread of his, and I doubt seriously I have anything  
>> to teach him about design patterns.
>>
>> And as far as ORMs go: yes, I find I get some interesting comments  
>> from time to time when I explain why I like using Transfer. Not  
>> actual combat exactly, but ...
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> Tom McNeer
>> MediumCool
>> http://www.mediumcool.com
>> 1735 Johnson Road NE
>> Atlanta, GA 30306
>> 404.589.0560
>>
>>
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