I'd heard some stuff about problems with hibernate running properly  
under jrun though. Not sure if that was ever resolved . . . Wouldn't  
matter just for groovy, but if you needed hibernate

On Feb 11, 2009, at 2:45 PM, Barney Boisvert wrote:

>
> CFGroovy doesn't require any JEE.  I haven't actually tested it
> (because I don't have an environment), but there's nothing in there
> that shouldn't run on CF8.0.1 Standard.  It takes care of all the
> magic internally.
>
> Obviously if you're already into the project, changing in the middle
> is probably not the best bet.  But the edition of CF you're running
> shouldn't be a barrier.
>
> cheers,
> barneyb
>
> On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Henry Ho <[email protected]>  
> wrote:
>> That's a very attractive alternative indeed.  However, I don't  
>> think I have
>> the privilege to direct the project to go outside of CFML.  We are  
>> planning
>> to run ColdFusion 8 Standard and therefore we cannot run a real JEE  
>> server
>> to support hibernate.  Furthermore, I don't think our team has the  
>> time to
>> learn Hibernate & Groovy just yet for this project.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Henry Ho
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Barney Boisvert <[email protected] 
>> >
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> If you don't have to stay 100% CFML, using Groovy and Hibernate is  
>>> an
>>> incredibly attractive option.  Hibernate blows the pants of any of  
>>> the
>>> CFML ORM tools in terms of features and flexibility, not to mention
>>> performance.  CFGroovy
>>> [http://www.barneyb.com/barneyblog/projects/cfgroovy/] is a
>>> CFML-centric way to leverage it (along with Groovy in general), or  
>>> Joe
>>> Rinehart (and the BroadChoice crew) has done all kinds of work to
>>> leverage it in a JEE-centric way.
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> barneyb
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Jared Rypka-Hauer
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Transfer, Reactor, DataFaucet... I guess those are the 3 I'd look  
>>>> at
>>>> first and foremost. Beyond that there's ObjectBreeze, but I think  
>>>> that
>>>> one's pretty much defunct.
>>>>
>>>> Then there's generators like the Illudium PU-36 Explosive Code
>>>> Modulator (or whatever it's really called). The name is from a  
>>>> cartoon
>>>> character's favorite line... but the URL is here:
>>>>
>>>> http://code.google.com/p/cfcgenerator/
>>>>
>>>> It will generate your model for you in just a few minutes.
>>>>
>>>> DB Libraries
>>>> Transfer: Mark Mandel
>>>> Reactor: Doug Hughes/Alagad
>>>> DataFaucet: Isaac Dealey
>>>> ObjectBreeze: Nic Tunney
>>>>
>>>> Generators
>>>> Illudium PU-36: Brian Rinaldi - http://code.google.com/p/cfcgenerator/
>>>>
>>>> Here's a link to Barney's CF & J2EE stack presentation:
>>>> http://blog.simb.net/2008/09/11/cf_groovy-with-barney-boisvert/
>>>>
>>>> Here's an article from Joe Rinehart talking about a new platform  
>>>> he's
>>>> putting together to use CF in a J2EE stack with Spring and  
>>>> Hibernate.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.firemoss.com/post.cfm/spring-hibernate-groovy-cfml-flex-swiz-hoagie
>>>>
>>>> I'd give ya more but I gotta get back to work.
>>>>
>>>> J
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 11, 2009, at 12:27 PM, Henry wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What are the available tools, beside the obvious Transfer?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Henry
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 11, 3:51 am, Brian Kotek <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> Yes, it can get very complicated. That's people choose to use  
>>>>>> tools
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> have already done all this work for you instead of reinventing  
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> wheel. ...
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Barney Boisvert
>>> [email protected]
>>> http://www.barneyb.com/
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Barney Boisvert
> [email protected]
> http://www.barneyb.com/
>
> >


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