Yes, I'm cherry picking, but some points I wanted to touch on or ask about.

On Dec 1, 2005, at 2:40 PM, Cees Hek wrote:

On 12/1/05, Jesse Erlbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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There are <tonnes> of other annoyances with MySQL but I'll only list a
couple that 'really' annoy me:
- the first timestamp field in any table is always updated on every UPDATE
- 0000-00-00 is a valid date in MySQL
- 2005-02-30 is a valid date in MySQL
- insert NULL into a NOT NULL column and MySQL will give it a default value
- overflowing data is truncated instead of returning an error

Some of this sort of thing bit us when we started using MySQL over PostgreSQL for newer applications. I have been made aware, however, of a new configuration option in Version 5.0 that removes some of this "helpfulness"

http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/server-sql-mode.html

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  1. Simple
Yes (but not always obvious in what it does)

  2. Reliable
Reliable in that MySQL rarely crashes.  But not reliable when it comes
to data integrity.  The fact that MySQL has some of the best crash
recovery tools available should be a sign.  I still get table
corruption happening regularly on heavily used tables (Although almost
all of the time MySQL is able to recover those tables with the caveat
that I can never be sure that nothing was deleted in the cleanup).

If you got into trouble with data corruption and an RDBMS and you didn't have recovery tools, I'd see being upset. But to "punish" someone for having good tools? I think that's unfair.

[snip]


PostgreSQL is fast, rock solid and works out of the box.  I have never
had any issues with disappearing data, or table corruption with
postgres.  I have never had postgres crash on me.  I rarely have to
read the postgres manual to figure out how to do something.  It has a
fantastic query optimizer and very useful explain output.  And it has
a huge amount of options when it comes to complex queries.

I will agree on the explain output. MySQL's takes a little getting used to be useful.


On the other hand, I still suffer from table corruption with MySQL.
It still munges my data at a whim just so it doesn't have to throw an
exception.  I still have to do things with temporary tables that
should be done with a sub-select (we don't run mysql 5 yet, since it
is too new for me).

Data corruption? In InnoDB tables? Are there general circumstances when that occurs. I'm genuinely curious on that one.

Thanks,

Nathan

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