David K. Kim wrote:
> 
> It would be nice if the UI would allow switch back and forth from
> multi-week to more detailed views. Esp. since this seems to reset as
> different collections are selected.
> 

Yeah, the unexpected switch from a preferred view (e.g. multi-week) to week
view is noted in <https://bugzilla.osafoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12662>
and <https://bugzilla.osafoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12664>.



> So... Perhaps with such a graphical analog view, additional info could be
> displayed by hovering or a bidirectional click-to-zoom feature could be
> considered?
> 

+1 to both ideas. 

IMO Apple's decision to lose the info pane (comparable to detail view) from
iCal was a huge mistake. 

In a highly responsive Chandler: I'd like the DV to detail each thing over
which I hover the pointer, as fast (or slow) as the movement of the pointer.



> -It would be nice to add a graphic representation of unscheduled tasks.
> 

+1 

See below …



> Perhaps items could be given weight based on how long it has been since
> they were entered, # of times deferred, etc (there may be better ways of
> capturing implicit importance or age as well). 
> 

+1, nice …



> Then they could be displayed in another color 
> 

FWIW I imagine that some things might be reduced, to greyscale in places,
whilst collections are shuffled. 

Actually, shuffling is not the best word; it implies randomness. Maybe
bubbling is a better expression. 

Already: we're happy for items to be bubbled upwards within the summary
table, temporarily. Bubbly blue dots and the like. Then triage, then clean
up.

Conceptually: we should be equally happy for collections to be bubbled to
the top of the sidebar, temporarily.

In ways such as this, I suspect that we might view and deal with e.g.
unscheduled tasks, without necessarily labelling them in that way. 



> or overlaid in some manner to indicate an implicit pending workload. Just
> a thought, but I think a lot of psychic energy is expended worrying about
> what is drifting around in the virtual "Later" (a point David Allen
> addresses as a problem with the GTD methodology).
> 
> -Most of all, I think "optimal" or intuitive may be somewhat
> user-dependent. If there is any way to introduce ideas like this as
> swappable plug-ins, I suspect it would allow most fruitful development
> without all needing to agree on one way to do it. 
> 

+1, extensible Chandler Desktop, Chandler as a platform, and all that.



> This is probably obvious to you, but I do not know enough re: the
> architecture of Chandler to know if this would introduce too much coding
> complexity or instability. 
> 

Well, I don't do code (sorry!) so that mock-up is nothing more than a
concept, unless anyone with relevant skills would like to pick it up.



> Time Machine-y. ;)
> 

Ah, I didn't see the 3-D aspect until you said that! The depth was
unintended, I just picked one of the available blurs from within Image
Tricks software on my Mac. The canvas could equally be flat, with a plain
grey background — that would surely be easier for developers ;) 

If we do add depth, then great things could be done with user-initiated and
Chandler-initiated zooms. And bubbles, of course.



> Great ideas.
> 

All due credit to Chandler people and alumni!
<http://chandlerproject.org/Teams/WebHome>

What struck me is, how quick and easy it was to rotate that central stuff 90
degrees and still have a (hopefully) working concept with so few colours, so
few icons and no text. The Chandler vision is a great thing to build upon.

The idea to strip away most text, to enjoy the icons alone, came quite
suddenly as a result of a few things:

1. thinking 'less is more' for the notional 'Chandler triage' application
for iPhone

2. recent discussions re: tasks, to-dos etc.

3. realising that I had spent too much time analysing the summary table,
wondering how the icons related to the texts

4. half-watching the Google Wave Preview movie, liking the playback idea,
thinking 'timeline'

5. Chandler 2 documentation reminding me of basics, including triage as a
timeline. 

Keep the ideas coming! 

(I have something else up my sleeve, but I want to see a fair number of
extra/alternative ideas in the forum before I go ahead...)

Cheers all
Graham
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