... as long as i'm giving out trade secrets, I will further point out that you should *never* make your best impression during the interview or during your first few days on the job - in any kind of an HR-related situation, the only thing you can do to secure a job is to control the perceptions of the potential employer - if you have to go all-out just to get the job, then you have probably over-extended yourself, and can only be a disapointment to the employer in the longer term.
Far better to get a job off a half-hearted attempt at an interview, then really surprise them with first rate performance reviews. It's relativistic, but it works. In short, never do any more than you absolutely have to to get hired - save your brilliance for when it's really needed - solving tough problems that none of their other people can solve for them. ... obviously, this assumes that you really are very good at your job - but if you're not, you shouldn't be going for the high-end jobs, anyway. Of course, keep in mind that I haven't worked in the Deep South in - what more than a decade? Closer to 15 years, I think. Typically the lower wage-scale jobs they offer in that region require submission to much more authoritarian nonsense than you will run across in, say, New England. In fact, I've noticed that the less the jobs pay, the more hoops they tend to make you jump thru to get them. Odd, but ... well, there it is. The other thing I took to heart some long time ago was an observation by a co-worker that the people who make the most money do the least work - that is: the managers, corporate officers, etc, are typically paper pushers who never do any real work (this is not universally true - I have worked with some really good managers, for instance), but when you get to the exremes - not that the day laborer who makes minimum wage or less works like a dog for below-subsitance level wages, while the richest man in the world - who has never done a days work in his life - makes more money in an hour while he sleeps than many people see in a lifetime of hard work. Hard work does not lead to success - persistence and smarts help, but hard work actually holds you back, since you never make enough at it to advance. The only people I know who don't really see this are typically middle managers who find live petty lives of conflated self-importance and get off on stepping on what they consider "the little guy". This is the difference between constuctive work to get a job done and what we used to call (back when I was a day labourer) "riding the clock" - performing the role of "warm body" and getting paid for it - which - again, in my personal experience - is a lot more acceptable to "hiring managers" than actually being productive. I believe this is because that's what most of the "hiring managers" do full-time - they ride the clock, somehow believing that the company's profits magickally come from having a bunch of people in a building who confrom to a particular corporate image. Most actual work, in my experience, is accomplished by the "unemployable" or the "renegades." Certain these types are the source of most actual innovation. As you may be able to tell, this is a very interesting topic to me. I was at first deeply shocked to find that so many companies prize appearance so greatly over ability, but I have grown used to it over the years and have developed strategies that have worked for me - your mileage may vary, of course, and I really don't ecourage anyone else to follow my example. At least, not unless you're quite serious about getting yourself into a position where the system doesn't push you around so much as it just screams at you out of sheer frustration ... --- John C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Whether it's Google or not, why would you ever go on an interview > wearing > jeans? > > > On 10/15/06, 0x0000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Hey, we don't wear suits! > > > > The I met at the hotel in San Jose who *did* get hired was wearing > one - > > he was also about 22 years old, very clean cut, and had only > rudimentary > > geek skillz ... of course, he probably wears t-shirts and shorts to > work, > > now, but that don't make him a geek... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 0x0000 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "CHAOS706.ORG" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups-beta.google.com/group/chaos706 -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
