>From the pages about eli " (J is both free and uses ASCII characters but it is more terse and difficult to learn than APL)."
I do not share this view but many people do. I think it important to get rid of this notion. Very many people use APL and J to show how you can solve tasks using as few signs as possible. I think it is i portant to show that you can solve tasks in J in the tradional way and then if needed/wanted changed into something more fun. There is not a huge importance getting the terse code compiled. Any possible compilation would be a small subset. Getting applications more easily running in a standalone fashion is something that could be important. And yet again more demos etc is something of interest and needed. A lot is happening and has been done but still we see theq quote above. On 29 Dec 2013 18:44, "Raul Miller" <rauldmil...@gmail.com> wrote: > Yes, apparently it's been around about 10 years? And it looks like > vsapl with a q influence. > > The aspects I like are the compiler and the esql. I am of the opinion > that having additional perspectives is nice. > > Its limiting its base language to something like iso vsapl is also an > interesting choice. That I imagine reduces the implementation skill > required to get it going (which in turn lends itself to stuff like > compilers and sql subset support). > > From a J perspective, I think that a compiler that handled a subset of > the language (even if it was only a rank 0 subset) would be a good > thing. This would extend the utility of the notation (albeit with > maybe a cost in elegance). > > I remember using a similar APL compiler back in the '90s. It used ML > style type inference and was basically more limited than a fortran or > c compiler. But when you had a performance bottleneck which you had > isolated to a simple function it was handy. > > Nowadays, of course, there are lots of other directions to go > (https://github.com/CovertLab/WholeCell -- > http://wholecell.stanford.edu/ might be a good illustration of what > can be done with a distributed system) and I think there's a lot to be > said for using language subsets when exploring such opportunities. > > Thanks, > > -- > Raul > > > On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 10:58 AM, Roger Hui <rogerhui.can...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > http://archive.vector.org.uk/art10501180 > > On 2013-12-29 6:43 AM, "Raul Miller" <rauldmil...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> http://fastarray.appspot.com/default.html > >> > >> Looks like J has a new cousin... > >> > >> -- > >> Raul > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm