Thank you for the comments. I agree with all of your statements. I am
not a strong advocate of the reduce change. Rather, I am interested in
participating in a community effort to contribute a change back to the
core. If this isn't the right change, then perhaps this thread could
be useful as a guide in the future and let others know of my interest.



On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Raul Miller <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 9:12 AM, Joe Bogner <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 1. Demonstrated a real need. More generally, what constitutes a need to 
>> change?
>>
>> - Performance?
>> - Ease of use?
>>
>> In terms of the reduce idea, it sounds like this may fit both criteria
>> as there are performance issues and the proposed solution[3] is not
>> easy for a beginner. I think further testing is needed on both though
>> to demonstrate the need.
>
> I can't help but think we should do a bit more here.
>
> I tried to find a statement by Ken Iverson about his criteria for
> including a feature in the language, but I wasn't able to find
> anything specific.
>
> I did find 
> http://www.jsoftware.com/pipermail/general/2001-November/008227.html
> which has to do with the "easy for a beginner" issue.
>
> And, I guess, personally, I would be looking for evocative uses. Even
> if it's just one really nice example - the documentation will need
> good examples.
>
> If the only reason for including this is "other languages do it", I
> suspect that the right approach would be to create a package which
> contains those kinds of words. Perhaps: 'general/misc/colloquial'?
>
> That said... I can see using this project to get into jgplsrc - but
> I'd want to view this particular thing as practice rather than as
> "intended for release". Getting things right takes a lot of work, but
> introducing a feature implies being willing to support that feature,
> which requires a lot more dedication than the initial implementation.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Raul
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