Thanks John,

One of the things that the standard display is really good at is hiding some of 
the details for the benefit of the user. Using 0 0 $ 0 as a way to create a 
null return is an example of that. With the Enhanced display I chose to show 
the results of empty shapes in a way that is clearer for the programmer, so 
using it with the 13!:x verbs sounds like a really good fit. Let me know how it 
works for you and about any bugs that you do discover.

Cheers, bob

On Jul 16, 2015, at 6:46 AM, John Baker <[email protected]> wrote:

> I have given this a quick try under jqt.
> 
> Opening a second window while also displaying the standard text display is
> very helpful.  The next time I am debugging something I will try using your
> script when stepping through code.  I use the 13!:x verbs and assigned pf
> keys for debugging instead of the visual debugger - (more portable) - so
> your script may yield many of the benefits of a visual debugger without
> actually using one.
> 
> Very nice. I'd urge everyone to give this a try and help shake out the bugs
> this will be nice addition to J's libraries.
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 7:45 AM, Joe Bogner <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> bob,
>> 
>> This is very impressive work. I watched the videos, which were
>> excellent, and successfully ran the jqt version. I spend more time in
>> jqt lately than jhs so this is a welcome addition.
>> 
>> Thank you for sharing
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>>   JVERSION
>> Engine: j803/2014-10-19-11:11:11
>> Library: 8.03.13
>> Qt IDE: 1.3.1/5.3.2
>> Platform: Win 64
>> Installer: J803 install
>> InstallPath: c:/users/joe bogner/downloads/j64-803
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 1:09 AM, robert therriault
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Good evening all,
>>> 
>>> For those who are using the jqt platform, I have just uploaded the
>> script for the Enhanced Display to work with jqt. The advantage that this
>> version has is that it will return the standard version in the terminal
>> window as usual, with enhanced version appearing in its own window for easy
>> comparison. To access the script and the videos describing it, visit the
>> wiki page.
>> http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/BobTherriault/Enhanced%20J%20Display
>>> 
>>> Cheers, bob
>>> 
>>> On Jul 10, 2015, at 11:57 AM, John Baker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I've been playing around with your enhanced display.
>>>> 
>>>> This has addon written all over it.  I was surprised to see that when
>> you
>>>> use it to generate a display in JHS the display retains a lot of
>>>> information about the contents of boxed structures.
>>>> 
>>>> Mousing and hovering over the array display describes the contents in a
>>>> direct and simple manner.
>>>> 
>>>> Of course all this is retained in the JHS page which underscores the
>>>> potential of JHS to show us a lot more.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 12:04 PM, robert therriault <
>> [email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks John,
>>>>> 
>>>>> In jhs what you are actually looking at is an SVG file in an HTML
>> wrapper
>>>>> created by j's defined jhtml verb.  I have created a version that will
>>>>> return raw html, but at the moment there seem to be issues attaching
>> the
>>>>> script to the wiki page.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers, bob
>>>>> 
>>>>> John Baker's post on the general forum.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The (visual) verb could be very handy for creating J documentation.
>>>>> Especially when building eBooks that display J boxed displays. Please
>> make
>>>>> sure there is a version that spits out the raw HTML.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It's amazing that here we are in the 21st century and box drawing
>>>>> characters are still a pain in the posterior.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The other day I was updating the LaTeX version of all my blog posts
>> bm.pdf,
>>>>> ("blog master" or "bowel movement"),  and found that the pipe character
>>>>> LuaLaTex was substituting in the font I was using was proportional
>> thereby
>>>>> throwing off the alignment in lstlisting environments:  arghhhhh!!!  I
>>>>> ended up
>>>>> "fixing" this issue with:
>>>>> 
>>>>> NB. lstlisting oriented portable box drawing characters
>>>>> 
>>>>> pipechars=:[: 9!:7 '+++++++++!-'"_ [ ]
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Which sneaks in ! for |.  I was not amused.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 7, 2015, at 5:12 PM, robert therriault <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have been working over the last while creating an alternative
>> display
>>>>> format for the JHS environment using SVG. It is loosely based on the
>> work
>>>>> that I had done last summer using HTML, but this version I think is a
>>>>> little cleaner and less obtrusive while still providing more
>> information
>>>>> than the standard display.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The script and the supporting videos are posted on the wiki. The
>> videos
>>>>> will give you a sense of the approach I have taken. I warn you all in
>>>>> advance when it comes to programming I am more of a designer than a
>>>>> programmer. :-)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/BobTherriault/Enhanced%20J%20Display
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I look forward to feedback, as there is some work to do on how to
>>>>> display unicode, symbols and sparse arrays in ways that make
>> interaction
>>>>> with them a bit more intuitive.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers, bob
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