It sounds like what you're saying is that more people (at least those like
you) would be more attracted to J if there were some large, specific
applications instead of general-purpose tools - is this accurate?


On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Wendell P <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015, at 05:10 PM, Joe Bogner wrote:
> > On Nov 2, 2015 2:34 PM, "Wendell P" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > eventually decided to go with K/Q because Arthur Whitney has done an
> > Hi Wendell, can you elaborate on a few of the points you made?
> > 1. How do you see K as a simpler language than J?
> > 2. What facilities for data manipulation are you referring to and what
> > would a library in J provide?
>
> Although at first glance K looks similar to J, it really is not an APL,
> since it is based on lists rather than arrays. Most of the
> simplifications follow from this. There is no shape, rank, and boxing.
> Syntax is cleaner for list operations and control structures. Functions
> have more conventional syntax and can take arbitrary number of
> arguments. I don't think much could be done with J in this regard,
> except maybe some small cleanup in the syntax and naming conventions.
>
> As for expanded capabilities, I was mainly thinking of two features that
> are very nice for handling text, dictionaries and the ease of processing
> uneven lines.
>
> All that said, I would use J if the libraries I need were already built,
> since I practically have to start from scratch with K/Q. Although
> traditional APL culture has been all about custom tools and there
> doesn't seem to be much interest here, I think machine learning could be
> a big opportunity for J. Although R and Python are now popular, data
> sets are so big that running time is a major concern. An array language
> that is also fast would attract attention if a usable ML implementation
> were available. For general ML, I'm thinking of libraries like
> Scikit-learn, Weka, and Shogun. For text mining, the model library is
> Gensim.
>
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