I am reminded of a saying that I believe I heard back when mainframes ruled the cyberworld. Here is a similar one:

"The only secure computer is one that's unplugged, locked in a safe,
and buried 20 feet under the ground in a secret location... and I'm
not even too sure about that one"
-- Dennis Huges, FBI.

/David

On 11/17/2017 10:16, Erling Hellenäs wrote:
Yes. There is a question about if politicians does not understand this or if they simply don't care about the possibility to keep data held in computers secret. Maybe they are just stupid enough to assume that their own personal data will not be revealed. Like when Angela Merkel got angry because the Obama administration listened to her phone calls, while being indifferent to Germanys sending of others call information to the NSA. /Erling


Den 2017-11-17 kl. 15:56, skrev Don Guinn:
There are so many issues here. The time and effort to really understand a
problem. The lack of understanding security issues. And, of course, the
"necessity" for officials to know everyone else's secrets.

I'm sure you all are familiar with the expression, "By the time you have
written the program and have it in production, you are ready to write the
program." That's one thing I like about Project Euler. It forces one to
really understand the problem, because obvious solutions seldom work. Next
we have all these tools available to solve complex mathematical problems.
We simply call the routine and display the results without understanding
the math behind it. Use GUI and available tools, one can easily throw an
impressive app without any understanding of the problem. And,
unfortunately, even the users of the app probably don't understand either.

While still working I was in the printer room of our computer facility with
six two-thousand-line-a-minute printers, all running as fast as the
operators could remove and reload the paper.

One of the operators said to me, "You went to Sam Houston, didn't you?" I
said, "Yes. How did you know?" He said, "With so much printing it's hard to
know when something is printing that's interesting. But there are some jobs
that are put in hold, and we have to call upstairs to have someone to stand
with the printer to make sure no one sees what's printing. Not that anyone
can read anything on the front of the printer as it's a blur. But if you go
behind the next printer to take out the printed paper, you can look over
behind the next printer and easily read it as it goes into the stacker." It
was obvious neither management nor the secretary to guard the print-out
understood the problem of securing the print-out.

Now we have pressure on to have ways to unlock our phones and everything
else we want private in the name of protection. Yet our leaders don't
realize that any such facility will probably leak out. And even if it
doesn't, there are lots and lots of people to try to hack it just for the
fun of it. And if it's there, they will find it. The very process of
requiring such loopholes makes all data unsecure, including their own.
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