Today the APL display is solved. But it wasn't when J first started. Unicode was there but support was a mess. The keyboard is still a mess, Dyalog keyboard works pretty well but conflicts with Windows keys. Looking at all the glyphs in Dyalog is just as difficult to read as the J primitives.
On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 7:52 AM, Raul Miller <[email protected]> wrote: > Unicode standardizes the APL representation issue, and creates numerous > other problems. > > It also does not solve the font problems, but that is solvable in many > environments. > > But there’s also the keyboard problem, and it’s almost routine that there’s > no consistent documented approach there. > > Thanks, > > — > Raul > > On Tuesday, June 12, 2018, Devon McCormick <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I'd like to amend (extend) a previous post: > > > > To the best of my recollection APL could be written with EBCDIC so why J? > > - EBCDIC, to the best of my recollection, supported extended character > > sets, sometimes through the use of "code pages". This severe, > > vendor-specific, limitation of character representation ("since solved", > > say some) was seen by Iverson and others as enough of a reason to try > again > > with a purely ASCII character set. This requires digraphs in order to > have > > sufficient tokens to specify a robust array-oriented computational > > notation, which is what J is. > > > > > > On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 6:07 PM, Jose Mario Quintana < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > My full reply is in the thread: [Jchat] J, APL, or calendars? > > > > > > On Thu, May 24, 2018 at 12:48 AM, 'Bo Jacoby' via Chat < > > [email protected] > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > mr Jose Mario Quintana remarks that stopwaches and odometers are > > 0-origin > > > > devices. Today is the 24th day in the 5th month in the 2018th year. > The > > > > ordinal numbers begin at "first". But a stopwatch would show that > 2017 > > > > years, 4 months and 23 days have passed. Cardinal numbers begin at > > zero. > > > A > > > > J index shows how many array elements are skipped. This cardinal > number > > > is > > > > confused with the ordinal number of the element. Centuries, decades, > > > years, > > > > months and days may be individually adressed by ordinal fractions. > > > ORDINAL > > > > FRACTIONS - the algebra of data. Thanks. Bo. > > > > > > > > | > > > > | > > > > | > > > > | | | > > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > > | > > > > | > > > > | | > > > > ORDINAL FRACTIONS - the algebra of data > > > > This paper was submitted to the 10th World Computer Congress, IFIP > > 1986 > > > > conference, but rejected by the referee.... | | > > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > > | > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Den 1:12 torsdag den 24. maj 2018 skrev Jose Mario Quintana < > > > > [email protected]>: > > > > > > > > > > > > Forgive me but I find the present situation funny because, taken > > > > literally, > > > > one should conclude that currently "It is not yet considered ready to > > be > > > > promoted as a complete task, for reasons that" cannot be found. > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 6:48 PM, Raul Miller <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Indeed: you could create that talk page, if you felt that that was > a > > > > > good thing. Or, I could. Or anyone else who has registered on that > > > > > site could. > > > > > > > > > > Meanwhile, "draft" means "the task description might change if > people > > > > > find significant problems with the current description". That does > > not > > > > > seem likely to happen in this case, but it's not like I have never > > > > > been wrong... > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Raul > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 6:11 PM, Jose Mario Quintana > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> Speaking of which, we don't yet have a J entry for > > > > > >> http://rosettacode.org/wiki/French_Republican_calendar > > > > > > > > > > > > There is a box on that page stating: > > > > > > > > > > > > French Republican calendar is a draft programming task. It is not > > yet > > > > > > considered ready to be promoted as a complete task, for reasons > > that > > > > > should > > > > > > be found in its talk page. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hovering on "talk page" the following text pops up: > > > > > > > > > > > > Talk:French Republican calendar (page does not exist) > > > > > > > > > > > > :D > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > ---------- > > > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/ > forums.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > ---------- > > > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/ > forums.htm > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Devon McCormick, CFA > > > > Quantitative Consultant > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
