Hi Raul

Your comments are appreciated and clearly there needs to be a reason for 
learning J.

Regards
Bill 


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From: Chat <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Raul Miller
Sent: Tuesday, 23 July 2019 1:37 AM
To: Chat forum <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Jchat] Introducing J to Financial & Actuarial Students

The financial and actuarial worlds have a lot of people with a variety of 
motivations, but generally speaking this sounds like a project which you would 
need to dedicate a few decades into, probably picking up more people for your 
team as you go.

That said, it's probably also worth pointing out that the financial world 
itself is in the process of changing.  Once upon a time (not long ago), Econ 
101 taught about "the efficient market hypothesis".
But that hypothesis turns out to be mathematically implausible for the general 
case (there can be specific contexts where it's approximately true, but those 
contexts would be restricted artifacts of regulations). [Other economic 
concepts -- supply and demand, bookkeeping, etc. etc. still have validity, but 
markets tend towards inefficiency, and that spells opportunity for people who 
understand what needs to get done and have the drive to help make it happen.]

In that context, J can only be a tool. A useful tool, but ultimately financial 
people have to be problem solvers -- shipping, manufacturing, agriculture, 
forestry, etc. etc. -- finance is sort of like the nervous system that wires 
these systems together.

Anyways.... for your students, I'd start by taking a look at the tasks assigned 
to them by other professors, and seeing what J can do to make the concepts 
clearer, and take them further. (Personally, I have some fondness for J's 
support of linear algebra, though there's plenty of other supported concepts 
also. Bayesian statistics obviously. And if you throw in Jd, you've got support 
for relational algebra.  Etc.)

But I guess my point is that you've asked a very broad question, and anything 
useful is going to have to be quite a bit more specific.

Thanks,

--
Raul

On Sun, Jul 21, 2019 at 7:52 PM William Szuch <[email protected]> wrote:
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> I am trying to introduce J to financial and actuarial students in 
> Australian universities.
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> Any suggestion most welcome.
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> I have been told that this is an uphill battle as Python and R 
> dominate the landscape.
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> Also there is a strong focus on data analytics in the actuarial 
> programs and work focus.
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> Bill Szuch
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