Apparently Iran blocks all HTTP proxies... China doesn't do this yet.
<abcdef> all tor routers are blocked in iran <abcdef> is there any web-censorship-circumvention net which operates like freenet? <abcdef> I got a technical question <abcdef> u c when u try to connect to a proxy in Iran, no matter what port you're using <abcdef> when you try to load a webpage, it time-outs <FuriousRage> use an anonymous proxy then it should work <abcdef> I told my brother who lives in the uk to set up a proxy on his machine <abcdef> I can access his webpages (apache) <abcdef> but nomatter what port he sets, it doesnt work <abcdef> what could the ISP have done? <abcdef> and that's the reason why tor does not work in Iran <abcdef> the whole idea behind tor was so stupid it's unbelievable <abcdef> by unbelievable i mean UNNNbelievable <Bludapoto> In what way abcdef? <Bludapoto> I mean, it's just an automatic proxy chain for socks traffic <abcdef> it uses proxy to connect, uses certain routers which are blocked by all filtering products <FuriousRage> abcdef: i belive you can use *any* port for tor <abcdef> it could have been a distributed net like freenet <FuriousRage> try use port 80 and see if it works <abcdef> already tried that <FuriousRage> abcdef: ask in #tor they should have more indept knowledge <abcdef> for tor and other proxies <abcdef> on my bro's machine in the uk <Bludapoto> abcdef, TOR is distributed. You can run your node as an accessor, or as a router <abcdef> hmmm <abcdef> thanks for info Bludapoto <Bludapoto> welcome - but definitely check in #tor <Bludapoto> They've also got a TON of docs online, very helpful overall. Tor's kind of .. small, anyway. <abcdef> I'm jest a little frustrated by this fuckin' taliban censorship <FuriousRage> abcdef: cant you just use an anonymous http proxy? <Bludapoto> By which I mean the Tor community/userbase. Hidden Services are usually slower than freenet, and it's pretty much just a bunch of people celebrating the fact that they're circumventing. It got kind of boring after a few days. <Caco_Patane> put you eforts on freenet in order to transform that frustration into happiness, proud and joy =D <abcdef> like cgi-proxy? <abcdef> I cannot use any proxy set on the user agent <abcdef> no matter socks,SSL, regular anything <FuriousRage> you should be able to set an http proxy in your browser <abcdef> I know they used to work up until 2004 <FuriousRage> Bludapoto: i got fed up with tor over irc, keep d/c me, now i got hold of an oper here to set me an cloak <Caco_Patane> what about a SSH tunnel, do you have any server outside? <abcdef> but the ministry of IT which is the exclusive ICP, found a way to prevent browsers from using proxies <Bludapoto> Furious: nice <FuriousRage> abcdef: they can tprevent your browser to use proxy on your computer unless you install some software they provide to fuck you your box <abcdef> nah, they have blocked proxy access on their fuckin' servers <FuriousRage> abcdef: althought, if you got a friend outside iran, and he got an 24/7 computer using linux(most likly) you could ask him to give you an anonymous proxy acces of somesort, like http tunneling, or over vpn or something <abcdef> my bro's IP was not blocked, I could view his webpages (he uses apache) , but couldn't <abcdef> use his proxy <abcdef> VPN works <FuriousRage> abcdef: there's many ways to tunnel http traffic afaik, just cant get many to mind atm ;> <sich> then you need to connect with vpn outside iran, and then use some proxy inside the vpn <Bludapoto> Furious: Thanks for the help. <sich> but you need to find someone who give you access on is proxy <FuriousRage> np <FuriousRage> sich: there is tons of free working 100%(?) anonymous proxies, i have used many sometimes ;> <abcdef> well, I want all those stupid fuckin' muslims be able to <abcdef> bypass censorship <abcdef> not everybody has a friend/family overseas <sich> FuriousRage: yes, but apparently he can't connect to any proxy <abcdef> and proxy and tor work neither <abcdef> that's why I say the idea behind tor was stupid <FuriousRage> sich: not directly, but thru someones other box he should be since vpn works.. <abcdef> coz it's based on socks <sich> yes, exact, but the problem is not to be anonymous, but to bypass control <sich> then there is no need to use anonymous proxy <abcdef> the anonimity is not an issue here <abcdef> (Iran) <FuriousRage> could tunnel the http traffic over ssh afaik too <abcdef> the only accessible websites are piles upon piles of islamic shit <abcdef> all free hosts are blocked <abcdef> most blogspot blogs are blocked <abcdef> geocities got blocked in 2004 <sich> they block http traffic but not irc ? <abcdef> not yet <abcdef> the other side of the problem is that there are thousands of free american hosts out there <FuriousRage> tunnel http traffic over ssh on port 80 or 8080, should work perhaps <sich> on my opinion the only real way to bypass all this problems, is to find some friends <sich> and use vpn + proxy <abcdef> but one can't register and upload phProxy coz they block IPs from Iran and North Korea due to stupid US sanctions <sich> hum, yes.... <sich> I see that usa law are stupid, like in France <abcdef> and the next day, u see Pres. George Bush (whom I thank for freeing Afghans) in TV <abcdef> talking about funding anonimizer web-based proxy servers <abcdef> for offering free access to Iranian IPs <abcdef> what a moron! <FuriousRage> you can say that again ;> <Caco_Patane> abcdef have your tried freenet? you were able to connect to somebody? <abcdef> yeah <abcdef> freenet (still) works but I'm looking for a network like #tor <abcdef> I got no problem bypassing censorship myself <abcdef> I need to find a dummy-friendly to offer to Iranians <sich> it's not eays, you need to trust him, and he need to trust you to <sich> brb <abcdef> well, I don't trust nobody on freenet <abcdef> but I exchange my ref key with them <abcdef> I'm not talking about anonimity, no Iranian authority can question you why u viewed a website full of Muhammad cartoons <abcdef> they have arrested many content creators though <nextgens> abcdef: they are probably fingerprinting/blocking proxying protocols <nextgens> the solution is to access proxies not using them <nextgens> or through ssl connections <abcdef> any info on these fingerprinting techniques? <abcdef> I mean any possible technique for blocking proxy use? <nextgens> it's trivial <FuriousRage> some/many propxies screams loud and clear that they are proxies afaik <nextgens> you detect the session bytes of proxied connections <abcdef> i c <nextgens> and you send a RST at both ends <nextgens> "trivial" :p <abcdef> I need book titles any suggestions <nextgens> FuriousRage: it's not a blacklist <abcdef> I'm sorry I'm so dumb I'm wasting your time <nextgens> it's dataflow analysis <abcdef> packet analyzing right? <nextgens> yes <nextgens> try using SSH if you have a trusted hop "outsite" <nextgens> abcdef: ssh -D <port> <abcdef> ok i'll give it a try <abcdef> thanks <nextgens> and configure your browsert to listen on the socks address localhost:<port> <nextgens> it will work <abcdef> damn <abcdef> http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp blocks Iranians IPs <abcdef> does the Java license permit me to mirror it? <abcdef> java.sun.com says: Export Denied blah blah blah Iran, North Korea blah blah <abcdef> that's why I wanna rewrite the whole java code in c <abcdef> nevermind bye -- Matthew J Toseland - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/ ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. 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