J GUI development tools can be thought of
as minimalistic Visual Basic. In terms of
rapidity it can even beat that for simple
to intermediate stuff. More complex controls
like Grid, Plot, ActiveX, etc. will require
more knowledge.

What is your status now: can you build a simple
form and know how to make basic use of Form Editor?
Or your are already for something really complex?

Petzold IMO said that to master a new GUI tool he
built a hex editor. Here's a hex editor using Grid:

http://www.jsoftware.com/jwiki/AndrewNikitin/HexView

But all simpler stuf is all done right in the 
Form Editor, which is fully described in the
J User Manual -- together with the WD and GL2.
The documentation is also very brief but (mostly)
complete.

I recommend doing a lot of practice -- 20 different
little applications, before you feel at ease.
For example, build a Currency Conversion tool, then
simple Calculator, then a Mortgage calculator etc.
A big painful mistake is trying to do a complex
application right from the get-go. First learn the
tools not thinking of the business side, so that
when you ready for something real, you not be thinking
about the tools.

Helpful is figuring out how various demos, addons
and Wiki scripts work. But there is no one path, just
try new features in order as you discover them and 
trust your instincts.


--- Lynn & Bob Graf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello all,
> I'm a newbie at J.  I have significant experience in the original APL, dating 
> back from the 80's
> when the principal use was from remote printing terminals.  I've read alot on 
> J, and its
> heritage from C as well as APL is obvious, which is fine, I've programmed in 
> C as well.  The
> problem is that I have no background in programming for a windows GUI.  While 
> there is some
> documentation for it, I really need a detailed tutorial so that I can begiin 
> to engaged in
> programmed instruction.  I find the documentation on this in the primer 
> insufficient, and would
> like to know if anybody could make recommendations to me as to where I can 
> turn, say in the J
> Wiki, or elsewhere on the net.
> I'm a bit overwhelmed at the info, but don't know where to search.
> Please help.
> Thank you very much.
> Bob from Boynton Beach, FL
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