In my opinion that is exactly the attitude that does not help *any* project.
Stefan, we are NOT backstabbing. I, for my part, am writing and criticizeing because I find Cherokee a project with a lot of potential. And mostly because I am NOT able to help you in a technical way. I just can't so what's the point of just throwing in our faces that we talk hot air. That's not true. We are trying to point out how customers think and this discussion revealed a lot of good points and arguments. Like that with a greater popularity the supporters (devs, designers, writers, marketing people) will grow. But it won't grow if interested people think the project is dead. And that is most probably happening right now. As pointed out, there were no updates visible to end users. The community site is broken. The installation guide is plain wrong. Yes, the best helmsmen stand ashore. But that means there must be someone in front, pushing Cherokee. But I have the feeling *you* backstab anyone who tries to constructively critize the project. ----- Original Message ----- From: Stefan de Konink <[email protected]> To: Hugo Vazquez Carames <[email protected]> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2012 9:35 AM Subject: Re: [Cherokee] Installing Cherokee Webserver and keeping it up-to-date On Wed, 5 Dec 2012, Hugo Vazquez Carames wrote: > Listen to the community. Let the community drive the project. Delegate... Guys seriously? Delegate? Please read the mailinglist. In the time you all are writing this massive e-mail based on your own preconceptions, you could have already made the Debian package. In Dutch we have a very famous saying: The best helmsmen stand ashore. Which closely relate to: The best players are in the back seat. I don't want to read a letter of these so called "discussions" and "backstabbing" on this mailinglist anymore until any of you take an effort in actually solving a problem (read: create the debian package). If the reply of you will be: "Geez, Stefan, the documentation of Debian is so poorly written that a non-developer mortal user is unable to create a Debian package theirselves." Then my reply is: apt-get install libtool automake gcc git git clone https://github.com/cherokee/webserver.git cd webserver git submodule init git submodule update ./autogen.sh --prefix=/opt/cherokee make make install Your Cherokee webserver is now nicely installed outside your distro's reach. And can be started with via rc.local using: /opt/cherokee/sbin/cherokee -d ...and if the above is all too difficult for users of the "greatest webserver platform" why not place a demand for a recent git based Cherokee package at the Debian bugtracker, like any user of a different distribution would do? Stefan _______________________________________________ Cherokee mailing list [email protected] http://lists.octality.com/listinfo/cherokee _______________________________________________ Cherokee mailing list [email protected] http://lists.octality.com/listinfo/cherokee
