You know, in today's litigation prone society, you could probably find
lawyers ready & willing to file such a suit!
Don

> > Josh,
>
> Lets go for it with the lawyer, we could also sue them for poor
> handling and lack of aluminum blocks and roller cams hahahaha
>
> Anyway it would be interesting to get some info about our cars.
>
> André
>
>
> > Craig, you touched on something that really makes me wonder about GM's
>  info.
> > The warranty issues. Wouldn't they have to keep record for warranty an
> d
> > recall info? What about the Older Chevy trucks which a few years ago G
> M
> > conceded could explode due to the saddle mount gas tanks? They had to
> > contact those owners who currently had those trucks. My buddy had rece
> ntly
> > bought a 77? Chevy pickup. He got a letter from GM offering a rebate o
> n a
> > new GM truck, according to him. Now there is no way he was the origina
> l
> > owner, yet GM was able to contact him. The only way I can see this is
> > possible is to run VIN's for current owners of these vehicles. How is
> it
> > possible that they had the info for these trucks but not for our cars?
>  I
> > fully understnd and realize the volumes of info they must have as you
> > mentioned, but it has got to be around somewhere? Gm canada and Pontia
> c
> > historical society have gotten it. Was it magic? Just a thought....
> > Maybe we should all initiate a class action lawsuit for the rear windo
> ws and
> > lower fenders rotting out on our cars. They all did it right from the
> > factory due to leaky rear window seals, right? We could argue that it
> was a
> > critical design flaw and we should be compensated. Maybe if we had the
> > lawsuit and won a settlement, GM would be forced to find the records t
> o
> > contact all current Chevelle owners???
> > Josh Gin (NoNeck) Visit my Chevelle website www.NoNecksChevelle.com
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Craig A. Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 9:52 AM
> > Subject: RE: [Chevelle-List] 1968 w/ Tripoli Turquoise -
>  how many made???
> >
> >
> > >
> > > I think part of the problem GM has with the data from the 60's and 7
> 0's is
> > > the recordkeeping systems in place at that time. That era used IBM p
> unch
> > > cards for input and magnetic tape for long term storage. No Windows,
>  no
> > > email, no nothing. In order to review the info, you had to write an
> > > "Easytrieve" program and print it out.  A lot of those records are/w
> ere
> > kept
> > > only to address disagreements with the IRS. I know this because I on
> ce was
> > > responsible for the EDP audits for a number of GM operating units an
> d am
> > > very familiar with their systems from the early 80's onward. I was t
> he
> > poor
> > > sap writing the Easytrieve code...
> > >
> > > So, a lot of the records we would love to see were never converted f
> rom
> > > their old format to modern formats. It's worthwhile to consider what
>  an
> > > expensive task that would be and that they would never spend the mon
> ey on
> > it
> > > unless they were forced to (as in an IRS issue). Also, we are talkin
> g
> > about
> > > MOUNTAINS of information -
>  not just build stats but warranty claims (which
> > > are all tracked by VIN) for millions and millions of cars over decad
> es.
> > And
> > > all of this information is "comingled". It's not like there is one t
> ape
> > out
> > > there somewhere with a summary of the build data on it. Considering
> the
> > > quantity, it's amazing they bother to retain any info at all. Also,
> it is
> > > entirely possible the mag tapes they wrote the data out on for stora
> ge
> > > simply deteriorated and became unreadable. This is a common problem.
>  These
> > > tapes are often stored, literally, in caverns tunneled out of mounta
> ins in
> > > Utah, etc. No kidding -
>  I've been there. They put the tapes in and forget
> > > about them for twenty years.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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