Having gone through a wiring nightmare which forced me to learn about wiring, I strongly agree with Steve. New wiring is very important and taking advantage of improved wiring engineering makes the whole system operate at a higher level. If you want to stay original there are a number of people (M&H comes to mind) that produce very high quality harnesses.
Gene > Actually you both have points I agree with on this subject. I think while > there is a very small percentage of people here that are going for 100% > stock look, I'll bet a true, "non-modified" car is extremely rare. Whether > you put a different solenoid, change the wiring, or put a mini-starter on > it, it's all modifications from what the factory did. While the cars were > great in their day, a lot of things have been improved upon, and I think > high tech has it's place on our cars. Each person has their idea of what > works for them and that's what makes looking at other guy's cars fun and > interesting. In fact, I have seen a lot of good ideas I just might use or > modify from what others have done. > > Now, since you mentioned wiring, ......man that is one area I think scares > the heck out of most people. Everyone has their talents, things they will > tackle,things they will learn, things they hire out, and things they get > help with. That's just part of the hobby. But I happen to think that wiring > is one of the most neglected parts of a restore because a lot of guys are > afraid of screwing it up and places to take it to right are not cheap or > readily advertised. I do understand this, as it's also one of the most > dangerous areas of the car as far as fires go and connection frustrations > can make you want to pull your remaining hair out. However, neglect in this > area can be just as dangerous with insulation that cracks and falls off and > wiring that can't handle new and heavier loads. > > While I am no car wiring expert, and have to study up on it, my experience > working in electronics and being around cars for years tells me that I don't > want any old wiring left in my car, that I will upgrade wiring and > connections and use high tech components and will have no connections that > are crimped only. I'll be soldering all of my connections thank you! There > are many good places to help with electrical components and the Street > Rodders have many companies catering to them for a variety of needs. My > friend have street rods and I attend their events and learned a lot about > how they make a high tech street machine out of old junkers. One of my > favorite companies for electrical products is Haywire. As with most other > car companies, their web site sucks, but they have an old timer working for > them that could wire up a gigawatt generator from steel wool if he had to. > They also have a lot of other supply companies that have great ideas for > electrical products including gold plated terminals, large gauge stranded > wire, and things that look just as good as they perform. I think we have a > lot we could learn from street rodders in this area. > > > Steve > -----Original Message----- > Wrom: QNQEMSFDULHPQQWOYIYZUNNYCGPKYLEJGDG > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mike Holleman > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:05 PM > To: The Chevelle Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Starter > > > Pete, > What in the world does need have to do with anything? We are car nuts. We > want to spend money on things we want on our cars. Don't go trying to invoke > common sense in to the mix. It don't fit. Jeez, I hope my wife doesn't read > your post. > Mike > ----- Original Message ----- > Wrom: VCJVTLBXFGGMEPYOQKEDOTWF > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 11:37 AM > Subject: Re: [Chevelle-list] Starter > > > In a message dated 9/3/2003 9:33:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > Why are you going with a mini starter? heat soak, bad starter, > > > > or just not enuff juice! Are you running a stock one now? > > > > > I was going to post this when I first signed up but was shy I > guess........ > On one of my 64 Chevelles I used to have problems with the starter not > kicking in. > This was all from engine heat and 30 yr old (at the time) wiring. > It was a 6 cyl so the headers were on the other side of engine so no > blaming them! > I bought a Chrysler starter relay which looks like a heavy duty version > of a GM horn relay. > Sorry no part number and there were several variations, but figure mid > 70's. (Find an old parts guy) > Mine has a 5/16" stud for incoming current, #10 or 12 screw for > outgoing, and a blade terminal for the actuating voltage. (plus a mounting > bracket built in) > Pretty simple on a six cylinder as I could mount it on starter end bolt. > I took the current from the pos. battery cable post on solenoid, ran > outgoing from relay to where original wire from ign switch use to hook on to > solenoid, snip terminal off original wire and replace with female blade > terminal and plug onto relay. > Now all original circuit has to do is energize relay and the juice for > solenoid only has to go through about 6" of wire instead of tortuous path > through marginal sized original wiring. > Be sure to clean mounting surface and use a toothed lockwasher to ensure > grounding of relay. (or relay won't actuate) > Hope this helps. Has worked great for me. > IMHO I think a lot of you don't need high dollar starters. > The above and decent sized starter cables (as in heavier than OEM) help > a lot. > Most of my ailments when using a 64 for everyday use were electrical in > nature. > Anybody else feel that way? > > Pete Geurds > 64 Malibu SS > 64 Malibu 4 door > 64 Chevelle 2 dr wagon > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > _______________________________________________ > Chevelle-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net > _______________________________________________ > Chevelle-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net _______________________________________________ Chevelle-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://chevelles.net/mailman/listinfo/chevelle-list_chevelles.net
