Re: RE: [Chevelle-list] Coil Toil

[chevelle292wagon]

> From: "Dale" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>I used a Ford solenoid on my 67 for years and got the *kit* from Summit.  They 
>supplied a copper strap to go between the posts but I would guess a good 8 or 10 ga 
>wire might suffice.  I never ran without that jumper strap so I can't attest to the 
>what problems there would be without it.<
 
You need the wire to the "S" terminal to activate the solenoid and drive the gear into 
the flywheel/flexplate and also close the circuit between battery and starter motor.
This Ford "solenoid" (it's not you know-just a big relay)seems like overkill.
I've used starter relays from 70's Chrysler products to bypass the suspicious wiring 
in the harness and make sure the solenoid always kicked in when hot. These look much 
like horn relays. Original wiring just has to activate relay which has a short path 
using #10 wire to jumper from battery cable to "S" terminal. Functions like lower 
drawing:
http://www.chevellestuff.com/tech/ford_solenoid.htm
 I think I like this better as heavy cable from battery to starter remains intact. 


Pete Geurds
Douglassville, PA

I used a Ford solenoid on my 67 for years and got the *kit* from Summit.  They supplied a copper strap to go between the posts but I would guess a good 8 or 10 ga wire might suffice.  I never ran without that jumper strap so I can't attest to the what problems there would be without it.   I tapped into one of the wires from the wiper motor for my electric choke.  I don't remember which it was but a test probe light will show which is hot *only* when the ignition is on.   Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709/NECOA #41 DalesPlace  My 67 El Camino ChevelleStuff  Decoding info on 64-72 Chevelles MidwestChevelles  Midwest Chevelle Show Information I've stopped 19,136 spam messages. You can too! One month FREE spam protection at www.cloudmark.com   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Crazy Rusty Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2004 12:05 AM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Coil Toil Thanks for the info Dale.  Sounds like I am missing that jump from the S post to the battery cable post.  Would that stop the car from getting power?  (it sounds like it would… so that could be my problem)   You are correct; that yellow wire is for the choke.  I was trying to think of where to put it but wasn’t sure what to do with it, any recommendations?   - JB   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 9:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: RE: [Chevelle-list] Coil Toil   "S" goes to the ignition switch, "I" goes to the coil positive side.  On the starter solenoid, you should also have a jumper between the "S" (inside) post and the battery cable post.  See http://www.chevellestuff.com/tech/ford_solenoid.htm for assistance.  The yellow wire you have going to the carb, is that for an electric choke?  If so, it's hot all the time and that's not what you want; you want a connection that's only hot when the engine is running and dead when the engine (ignition) is off.   The purple wire goes from the "S" terminal to the fuse block, correct.  The yellow wire doesn't go the the wiper motor, only the coil.  There are yellow wires (and blue and black) on the wiper motor but they go to the bulkhead connector.  See http://www.chevellestuff.com/67stuff/67velle/wiring_diagrams.htm for 67 wiring diagrams.   Dale McIntosh TC Gold #92/ACES #1709/NECOA #41 DalesPlace  My 67 El Camino ChevelleStuff  Decoding info on 64-72 Chevelles MidwestChevelles  Midwest Chevelle Show Information   I've stopped 19,136 spam messages. You can too! One month FREE spam protection at www.cloudmark.com     From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Crazy Rusty Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2004 10:43 PM To: 'The Chevelle Mailing List' Subject: [Chevelle-list] Coil Toil Another noob wiring question…  I think I have my S and I’s mixed up on my remote starter solenoid.  Come someone please take a pic in the link below and let me know what you think.  I am just guessing on the end-location on the wires coming off those two bolts.  I think I may have them reversed but I good of swore I hooked them up the same way.   You never see the purple wire hook to anything else it looks like it goes straight to the fuse block. The yellow wire seems to make stops at the coil (positive term) and the windshield washer, I think.   Pic - http://www.crazyrusty.com/chevelle/projects/electrical/full/coiltoil.JPG   I put in a new dash harness, engine harness, and front lamp harness.  I get a fairly bright light when I test the connectivity between the negative battery terminal and the battery cable (I have the negative cable off and laying to the side).  Someone told me that if I get a light when doing that, I have a short somewhere.  Does that sound right to you all?   Thanks a lot once again, JB

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