Hey Justinas, If you like Lisps and Erlang, you might want to check out LFE in addition to Joxa. Depending upon what you're doing, I've found Lisp hacking in Erlang to be an extremely rewarding experience.
I continue to watch ChicagoBoss development, but I've been doing more of my recent work directly on top of YAWS. The simplicity of writing a single entry point and not having to think around a framework (I've been in framework land since the 90s... it's nice to get away, once in a while!) has made it a compelling tool in the larger Erlang dev box. If you're interested, you may want to check out some simple examples: * https://github.com/lfe/yaws-rest-starter * https://github.com/oubiwann/cloudy/blob/master/src/cloudy.lfe#L64 * https://github.com/lfe/lfetool/#new-yaws The first two are REST examples, and the last one shows how to use lfetool to generate a new sample web project that uses Bootstrap (even the HTML is S-expressions). If you want to try it out, it should be this simple: $ curl -o ./lfetool https://raw.github.com/lfe/lfetool/master/lfetool $ bash lfetool install /usr/local/bin $ lfetool new yaws bootstrap my-web-project $ cd my-web-project $ make dev And then point your web browser at http://localhost:5099/. Sorry for the hijack, Bossers :-/ d On Sat, Mar 22, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Justis <[email protected]>wrote: > Hi, > > I have asked a question on > stackoverflow<http://stackoverflow.com/questions/22571676/lisp-in-erlang-or-erlang-in-lisp>, > but it seems that they put my question on hold because it might be opionion > based rather than facts based. > > Putting my question in here so you wouldn't need to open that link. > > googling around I found that Lisp SBCL is faster than Erlang HiPE > (source<http://benchmarksgame.alioth.debian.org/u64q/benchmark.php?test=all&lang=sbcl&lang2=hipe&data=u64q>), > though I read that Erlang is way more memory efficient with lots of > multiple processes. So, would lisp (for example joxa <http://joxa.org/>, > though it's DSL, so maybe it's a stupid question..) on Erlang VM would be > faster than erlang itself, or it's smarter in performance point of view to > have Erlang features in/on Lisp? > > I am asking because I'd like to try/learn to make a web application and or > website with a purpose for high usage (for example facebook & whatsapp used > Erlang to deal with high usages) on relatively as low hardware as possible > (OT: I simply dislike bloat - in example when hardware gets faster and > faster but software developers often don't optimize things because hardware > is getting faster and then you don't notice the technological progress > because as it was lagging 10 years ago it is still lagging now on 100 or > 1000 times faster hardware. This of course doesn't apply to everything), > but without scarifying the features or modern/popular thins of today (like > the guys from suckless <http://suckless.org/> sometimes do). > > I found that on Erlang side things are a bit more progressive and more > evolved than on Lisp side, for example things like Chicago > Boss<http://www.chicagoboss.org/>looks promising and attractive. And as they > state that you could run things > or relatively low hardware, but how it would be with some server-side code > execution time, when you need to compute something for the user and you > want to do that as fast as possible, so he [user] would feel comfortable > with your website or application. So looking at first link - some > benchmarks it seems that it would be better to use Lisp, because its faster > compared to Erlang HiPE, but on the other hand you want that features of > Erlang VM which allows of easy resource sharing and scales to a lot when > running, for example 10 000 instances of the same web application.. > > Any thoughts on this? > > Sincerely, > Justinas Petravičius > > A student from Lithuania :) > > E-mail: [email protected] > > - Ad Noctum - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "ChicagoBoss" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/chicagoboss. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/chicagoboss/CAFru%3Dxa8eR%2B_efvvwf1Y7mvHzdbSMh5ZvSUQgY9wehv_ZTdE0Q%40mail.gmail.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/chicagoboss/CAFru%3Dxa8eR%2B_efvvwf1Y7mvHzdbSMh5ZvSUQgY9wehv_ZTdE0Q%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ChicagoBoss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/chicagoboss. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/chicagoboss/CAMFCc65SwdrR4bUqZbxD0udoU7Uxc8gWTXsn-XzSbh9vZArueQ%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
