I'm not too familiar with CB (I'm a Zotonic developer), but I feel Nicholas does a fair job in his comparison.
I'd just like to make a note regarding TechEmpower tests. TechEmpower tests does a ton of micro-benchmarks that shows what kind of throughput you can get in a stripped/partial system on a single request. If that fit your needs, I suppose they are useful. What they doesn't show is how the system performs under heavy-load, as a full-stack/application. I bet their results would be quite different if they provided tests showing how the various frameworks degrade under pressure. //Andreas 2014-04-01 21:56 GMT+02:00 Nicholas Whittier <[email protected]>: > You'll find at least a few users overlapping both groups, and my guess is > that both sides will have similar thoughts. > > Some thoughts from a light user of both: > 1. As David mentioned on another post here, chicagoboss is in a bit of a > transitional state at the moment, so expect things to be > changing/coalescing over the next several months. > 2. While Zotonic is a web framework, it's tightly organized around zotonic > as a CMS. Similar to the way you can use the underlying Drupal or Joomla > framework if you wanted, but you could also build a site via custom modules > that integrate at the CMS level (zotonic users/devs should chime in if I'm > going too far with this). ChicagoBoss is more framework focused and has no > CMS (though erlangcms.com is building a CMS on top of CB). I think this > results in facts like Zotonic's limited database support or that you need > to write your own user authentication in CB. > 3. At the moment (prepare for a flagrant oversimplification), I'd present > Zotonic and CB as something like Drupal and Symfony in the PHP world or > Django and Flask in Python. I don't want to raise any framework/language > wars here, I'm just highlighting that CMS's have a place, as do frameworks. > There's often a lot of overlap, and in many cases it's a difficult decision > between the two when you're starting a new project. > > A thorough review and comparison between Zotonic and CB would be a great > undertaking, but I think it would target a very niche audience. TechEmpower > tests would also be great, but I think they make more sense at or after the > 1.0 release. > > For me, if I know I need generic users and content management, I use > zotonic. If I want more control over users and database(s) or if I want an > API, I use CB. It gets a little murky with more complex scenarios. > > -- Nicholas > > > On Monday, March 31, 2014 2:21:20 AM UTC-7, Szymon Czaja wrote: >> >> I have spent some time with zotonic, this is a great project, yet I >> quickly discovered it is quite complicated, the documentation is really bad >> and it fails to meet some of my needs (e.g. riak integration). >> >> I have asked a similar question the zotonic community: >> https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=zotonic+users&oq= >> zotonic+users&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60l3j69i59.5312j0j7& >> sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=93&ie=UTF-8 >> >> Has anyone gone into trouble of comparing the two frameworks and I mean >> the inner workings and implementation details of the two frameworks rather >> than just functionalities? >> >> And how fast and reliable CB really is? The makers of zotonic give an >> example of the voting project they have managed showing how zotonic easily >> managed with heavy load and the 100% availability requirements. >> >> Has anyone thought about running a TechEmpower test etc? >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "ChicagoBoss" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/chicagoboss. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/chicagoboss/b9f6f537-2b49-4f60-9629-aca46d378b21%40googlegroups.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/chicagoboss/b9f6f537-2b49-4f60-9629-aca46d378b21%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ChicagoBoss" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/chicagoboss. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/chicagoboss/CABCxKre5kirexTr4bSPesDgba5gjcuFtM1oXc3bwz784EH8FAg%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
