Nonnie  , we all have our own way of dealing with pain. NObody 
should judge that.. As far as the trailer trash that is really 
uncalled for . I live in a very nice home (though not big-- 1100 sq 
ft) with 1.08 acres. but I now live a quiet life. At one time I had 
teenage children and my one son gave me so many problems.  I thought 
I would loss my mind and yes something happened between my son and 
my hubby which resulted with my son in state custody at the age of 
15. It was for all of our safety. I was still able to be in his life 
and was encouraged to do so... He was an angry kid and I did 
everything I could , I mean everything.. But I am not trash .. If 
you insist on saying that then I am to believe it is YOU not the 
other's with problems..Please.. stop hurting others and understand 
that you can't keep doing what you have been for months without 
people finally saying ENOUGH!!!  Please, understand that it is not 
personal ,but the same people you have said things about only want 
you to stop judging.. God is the only one who can do that.. NOT you. 
Where is the MOD or owner to this group?? This needs to be settled.. 
Cindy



--- In Chihuahuas@yahoogroups.com, "Nonnie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> ask marsha what her son had done BEFORE This incident. He put 
Marsha in the
> hospital i believe iwth broken ribs cause he beat on her.  Oh this 
isn't the
> incident that made her a BYB it was her conversations and 
information she
> has divulged that makes me know she is a BYB.  The people who 
squalk the
> loudest against BYB's are the BYB's (those that are breeding 
dogs).  SHE
> KNEW HER SON or whatever real relation he is (though not her son) 
had
> problems particularly with anger management.  How much did she 
love the dog
> when she was complaining the next day of not having another male 
to stud and
> being broke yet travels to washington for some thing or other and 
is an
> attorney.  Hmmmmm something doesn't make sense.  Then to say so 
causualy the
> kid is now in "juvie"  hmm...... poor image and poor impression.
>  
> One is always judged by the company they keep and trust me nobody 
will ever
> hurt my dogs because I don't have trailer park trash as friends in 
my home.
> My friends are not in and out of jail or "juvie"
>  
> The point is that many people on this list can't legitimize 
themselves as
> being anything other than BYB's.  Whether it is with one or two 
females they
> are BYB's and are simply producing dogs for their own profits.  
You guys
> want to improve the breed... save a dog... Have a warm and fuzzy 
feeling
> about yourself.  Don't look the other way as dogs are put to sleep 
because
> their owners are irresponsible and uncommitted.  It happens....... 
you can't
> save them all but it does matter to the ones that are saved.  Many 
puppy
> millers and byb's dump their dogs when they are no longer 
productive.  See
> it all the time www.petfinder.com tells it all.
>  
> Nonnie
>  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chihuahuas@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Jennifer & T'Pina Rasch
> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 1:22 PM
> To: Chihuahuas@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Chihuahuas] Re: THE CHI BREEDER TOPIC To Nonnie.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> What this person was refering to was your attack on Marsha because 
a
> accident happened to her dog that killed it; and your time will 
come. Some
> day your dog is going to have a accident that will kill him/her. 
It happens
> to everyone, and you are not excluded. Not knowing your son is 
going to get
> angry enough to kick, and kill your dog is not a sin. It doesn't 
make Marsha
> a bad owner/breeder, or a BYB. They only way that incident would 
make Marsha
> a bad person or at fault is if her son had did it before, and she 
ignored
> the problem knowingly putting that dog in danger, or (since it was 
the frist
> time) ignored the problem knowingly putting another dog in danger. 
She
> didn't, so that makes her a strong, great person. You are 
heartless to keep
> throwing that up in her face. She not only lost a dog she loved 
when that
> happened, but she in a way lost a son she gave birth to, and spent 
half her
> life rasing. Did you ever even think of that? You need to put 
yourself in
> that sitchtion(sp), and see how you would feel. By the way: what 
happened to
> Marsha can happen to you as well. You could have a person in your 
home one
> day that will kick, and kill your dog. In fact you are inviting it 
to happen
> by your relentless, and heartless attack on Marsha; as what goes 
around
> comes around. God/Destiny (whatever you believe in) could decided 
to teach
> you a lesson, and have the same thing happen to you.
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Jennifer.
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Nonnie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> I can't have an accident I have a spayed female and a neutered 
male.  My
> time won't come!!! Trust me.  Accidents only happen when people 
fail to
> plan.   Those who fail to plan, plan to fail.
>  
> The people who have the most outrage are the BYB's.
>  
> Nonnie
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chihuahuas@yahoogroups.com 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Lacey
> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2006 3:06 AM
> To: Chihuahuas@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Chihuahuas] Re: THE CHI BREEDER TOPIC
> 
> 
> I'm not getting into the whole "to breed or not to breed" topic 
> here, but I do have one comment to make:
> 
> Accidents can and WILL happen, Nonnie. You may not have had one 
yet, 
> but your time will come... as will everyone else's here. ~Lacey
> 
> In [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:Chihuahuas%40yahoogroups.com> 
ups.com,
> "Nonnie" <nonnie_nt@> wrote:
> >
> > What you only want people who agree with you????? Isn't that a 
> trite world.
> > You are glad Marsha defended that person. Her male stud dog was 
> kicked to
> > death by a relative of hers... and now I see she has females 
> pregnant
> > again... and multiple ones... BYB comes to mind.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:Chihuahuas%40yahoogroups.com> 
ups.com 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:Chihuahuas%40yahoogroups.com> 
ups.com]
> On
> > Behalf Of Carrie Prados
> > Sent: Monday, January 01, 2001 9:48 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:Chihuahuas%40yahoogroups.com> 
ups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] THE CHI BREEDER TOPIC
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I have to laugh when I read your post. What a coincidence. I 
just 
> put one of
> > my little girls in a playpen tonight. LOL.When we moved here the 
> people left
> > behind a really nice one and I am sure she likes it more than 
the 
> dog crate.
> > I have a question. I am glad you mentioned yours is odor free. 
> How do you
> > get the smell out when they pee pee on the matress for the 
> playpen? She has
> > not done it yet but I know she is sooner or later. LOL
> > Carrie
> > 
> > -------Original Message-------
> > 
> > From: cherufus <mailto:MATTCHER@> 
> > Date: 9/16/2006 12:42:52 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> <mailto:Chihuahuas%40yahoogroups.com> ups.com> ups.com
> > Subject: [Chihuahuas] THE CHI BREEDER TOPIC
> > 
> > 
> > This topic and posts are not in tune with the purpose of the 
> group. 
> > Noonie why don't you just drop out. She had a legitimate 
question 
> > and you did not have to blast her. Thank God for Marsha to 
support 
> > her. If she was starting a puppy mill or did not care about the 
> > pups, would not have asked the "not so stupid" question. We do 
not 
> > care how much money you have. You should remember to think 
before 
> > you comment. My special motto is: "PEOPLE DON'T REMEMBER WHAT 
YOU 
> > DID, PEOPLE DON'T REMEMBER WHAT YOU SAID, BUT PEOPLE REMEMBER 
HOW 
> > YOU MADE THEM FEEL"
> > I am sure you did not make her feel great about you and you do 
not 
> > even care or you would not have posted that comment. I sure hope 
> > you treat your animals alot better than you treated her honest 
> > question. I myself am a breeder and do not appreciate your 
> > comments. My "children" are raised in a playpen, cleaned twice 
> > daily, are peepad trained at 5 wks, are members of our family, 
and 
> > are gived to carefully examined new owners with a clause that if 
> > they are unable to care for them, they are to bring the chi back 
> to 
> > us. By the way, the playpen is in my bedroom and even the 
> telephone 
> > installer did not know it was there until I pointed it out to 
him. 
> > He couldn't believe there was no smell. He was amazed that they 
> > were as clean as a human baby.
> > 
> > My methods are to insure a great member of a new family and a 
new 
> > family that is best for MY CHIS.
> > 
> > So, Noonie, either chill out or drop out. You owe an apology to 
> > many.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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