Hi, Everyone!

    I am sorry I missed this thread. I saw it only this morning.  I have a 
service dog/chi myself.  I am disabled a due to an accident and now wear a 
brace on my right arm.  So...... I guess one would say that my boy IS "my right 
arm"!!  Therefore I do experience first hand the power of my dog! I have also 
experienced the ignorant who have not only said I am not disabled but those who 
have said I only want to bring my dog places with me.  Marsha is correct; I or 
anyone else does not have to answer questions about my disability or my dog. I 
use these public affronts, however, as an opportunity to teach those around me 
about the law and service dogs.  I guess once a teacher, always a teacher.  
Those who say they have a service dog and are not disabled in any way continue 
to amaze me.  They should, as the saying goes, "walk a mile in my shoes".  
Having a disability of any form, is not the "in" condition!! Sorry to go on and 
on,

Elizabeth


--- On Thu, 1/8/09, Stefanie Brannan <[email protected]> wrote:

> From: Stefanie Brannan <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] service animals
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 10:18 PM
> That's great that Joe helped to train Pepper. 
> Hopefully you will find anther Chi and maybe Pepper can help
> you train him/her.
>  
> Stefanie
> 
> --- On Thu, 1/8/09, [email protected]
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] service animals
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 10:10 PM
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Actually, yes, I have tried other breeds.....Pepper is my
> second chi SD.
> Joe was my first. When I moved to Ohio, I had been there
> about 6 months
> when Joe suffered a stroke and vet gave him about 6 months
> to live. I
> totally freaked out...no way I could live alone with out
> him!! So my
> landlord heard and put me in contact with "prison
> puppies" a program in
> Ohio where prisoners train pups in basic obedience then
> place them in
> homes to be further trained as SD's. They placed a
> little dog with me and
> I had hom for about a month before I realised I just could
> not handle a
> dog that big.....He was not big, per se, but bigger than I
> wanted in the
> house. So I let him go back. I then got Pepper at 4 months
> old and
> actually Joe is the one that trained Pepper! Since pups
> have a tendancy to
> imitate older dogs, Pepper was imitating Joe's
> alerting. After a while,
> Joe would stop alerting right off...to give Pepper a chance
> to do it
> first...if Pepper didn't react quick enough to suit
> Joe, Joe would alert.
> After Joe was satisfied that Pepper could "do the
> job" Joe stopped
> alerting altogether. He ended up living another 5 years
> after his stroke,
> lol. But he never did alert again once he stopped...he just
> laid around
> all day like any other retired person, lol. But I know that
> a chi is realy
> the only breed that totally works for me...it is just a
> matter of finding
> that special one again :-)
> 
> Marsha
> 
> > Marsha, have you ever looked into trying another
> breed for your hearing
> > SD?  I love Chis to death but I am sure it is hard
> to find just the
> > right one for that kind of work (like Pepper). 
> Pepper sounds wonderful
> > and I bet it will be hard to replace him.  Other
> small dogs to consider
> > if you don't find a Chi that fits might be a
> Papillon or a Toy
> > Australian Shepherd.  I have seen both breeds exceed
> in things like
> > agility and obedience.  They are very smart and very
> focused (especially
> > Aussies).  I am sure some Chis can be, too.  
> > Stefanie
> >
> > --- On Thu, 1/8/09, ruff...@prtcnet. org
> <ruff...@prtcnet. org> wrote:
> >
> > From: ruff...@prtcnet. org <ruff...@prtcnet.
> org>
> > Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] service animals
> > To: chihuah...@yahoogro ups.com
> > Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 9:48 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > (It does take a very special dog....in fact, I am now
> on my THIRD
> > attempt at a replacement for Pepper. Pepper
> desperately needs to retire.
> > He is way to,old to continue working and his health is
> not good. I have
> > been trying for 2 years to replace him so he can
> retire.....I am now on
> > my third attempt. The first two simply did not have
> what it takes to be
> > a service animal. Cayenne was the first I tried and
> she does not have a
> > long enough attention span...she didn't make it
> far at all. Dijon was my
> > next
> > attempt...he has done a great job at alert training
> and I was so
> > happy....till we made our first venture into
> public...turns out he is
> > terrified of strangers... way too timid......so now I
> am still
> > searching. I have recently noticed Berry is doing some
> nice
> > alerting...he is still a pup so too early to
> tell...but he may be
> > trainable... ...but it is not just every dog that can
> make the cut...it
> > takes a very special kind of dog to become a service
> animal.
> > Marsha
> >
> >> Yes, some can open the fridge, turn on lights,
> open doors, etc, etc. 
> >> It's amazing!  I think some dogs are just
> born with a natural ability
> >> to do some of these things SDs do.  Of course,
> they are
> >> rigorously trained to do those things. But I
> think you have to find
> >> one that will be eager to please and enjoy the
> work they do for their
> >> human.  My husband and I, fortunately,
> don't need a service dog. But
> >> my male Australian Shepherd, Twister, has taught
> himself how to alert
> >> my husband and me to the phone ringing, the
> oven/microwave timer
> >> beeping and other noises around the house.  He
> gets all excited, jumps
> >> on us and guides us to the noise.  We can hear it
> ourselves but
> >> Twister just taught himself to do that.  He
> really would make an
> >> excellent hearing dog!  
> >> Stefanie
> >>
> >> --- On Thu, 1/8/09, Mare~~ <bittyd...@gmail.
> com> wrote:
> >>
> >> From: Mare~~ <bittyd...@gmail. com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] service animals
> >> To: chihuah...@yahoogro ups.com
> >> Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 9:29 PM
> >>
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> >> I wish I had a service dog for when I can't
> walk too much because of
> >> the pain. He/she could open the fridge and stuff
> like that. Hugs,Mare 
> >>  
> >>
> >> -------Original Message----- --
> >>  
> >>
> >> From: Stefanie Brannan
> >> Date: 1/8/2009 8:24:15 PM
> >> To: chihuah...@yahoogro ups.com
> >> Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] service animals
> >>  
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Well said Marsha.  My father has been in a
> wheelchair for 20 years
> >> now.  He is paraplegic (paralize d from the
> mid-back, down) because of
> >> an accident.  He doesn't have a service dog
> (my step-mom helps
> >> him) but I understand where you are coming
> from.  Such as.....  I know
> >> that people who aren't disabled will
> sometimes park in the handicapped
> >> parking spaces just because they are too lazy to
> walk far.  At least
> >> they can walk!   
> >> Stefanie
> >>
> >> --- On Thu, 1/8/09, ruff...@prtcnet. org
> <ruff...@prtcnet. org> wrote:
> >>
> >> From: ruff...@prtcnet. org <ruff...@prtcnet.
> org>
> >> Subject: [Chihuahuas] service animals
> >> To: chihuah...@yahoogro ups.com
> >> Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 8:13 PM
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I want to address the entire issue of service
> animals and the law
> >> regarding their access rights. First, let me say,
> Sharron, I am NOT
> >> trying to be mean to you or anything. I do not
> know if you have a
> >> disability or if Katie is trained to assist you in
> any way. If you
> >> do/she is, then I have absolutely no issues with
> your situation. She
> >> does look nice, there is no doubt about that.
> >>
> >> But, at the same time, I wanna try to explain a
> little about "the
> >> other side" There was a time when anyone with
> a disability was just
> >> flat out of luck. They could not work, they had no
> chance to
> >> socialise, they realy did not have a life.
> However, it has taken a lot
> >> of years and a lot of dedication, but those of us
> with a disability
> >> are now able to do many of the things that people
> without a disability
> >> take for granted.
> >>
> >> I have a boatload of chihuahuas. I love each of
> them dearly, and when
> >> I am going somewhere where they are allowed to go,
> I enjoy taking them
> >> and showing them off. I also have an SD. Pepper is
> by no means my
> >> "cutest" chi....he is not the one
> everyone will "awwwww" over. But, he
> >> is the one I depend on.
> >>
> >> Emagine going into a store to do your regular
> routine shopping. You
> >> walk in, you get what you want, you pay, you
> leave...never giving a
> >> thought to it. Now, emagine you are in a
> wheelchair and every iten you
> >> need to buy is out of your reach....so you turn to
> your trusty friend,
> >> you gets the item for you.
> >>
> >> Emagine you are in a dark area that you are not
> familiar with and you
> >> hear a sound....look around and don't see
> anyone....you quickly make
> >> your way to a lighted area and now feel safe. Now,
> emagine you are in
> >> the same area and you do NOT hear the sound....but
> there is a mugger
> >> behind you who grabs you, rapes you, steals
> everything you have and
> >> leaves you for dead. Or emagine you don't hear
> a sound, but your
> >> trusty friend walking behind you does...he alerts
> you to it and you
> >> quickly leave the area and are spared.
> >>
> >> Emagine you are going for a job interview in a
> building you are
> >> unfamiliar with. You walk across the parking lot,
> cross the walkway,
> >> enter the door, get into the elevator, push the
> button that will take
> >> you to the right floor and enter the room where
> you are to go. Now,
> >> emagine, you are going for the same interview...
> the first one you
> >> have had in 3 years...because no one wants to hire
> the blind
> >> girl.....you don't see the cars, walk right
> into one parked into the
> >> parking
> >> lot...which of course sets off the alarm....make
> it out of the parking
> >> lot and to the crosswalk, where suddenly you hear
> horn blast because
> >> you didn't see the car
> >> comming...somehow you make it to the building,
> fumble around for the
> >> door....ask someone to lead you to the
> elevator...finally arrive at
> >> your interview, don't get the job because you
> are so diheveled from
> >> your adventures in getting there. Now, same
> scenario, but this time,
> >> your trusty friend leads you around the parked
> cars, holds you back
> >> till traffic is clear, leads you through the doors
> and directly to the
> >> elevators... .
> >>
> >> In 1996, I left home for the first time to live in
> my own appartment.
> >> I was in a town where I knew no one.... I was 5
> hours from any friends
> >> or family. MY SD at the time, Joe, made this
> possible for me. I could
> >> not have gone without him. No one would wake me
> up, no one would tell
> >> me someone was at the door, no one would alert me
> if an intruder broke
> >> into my appartment while I slept. But, thanks to
> my trusty friend by
> >> my side, I was able to venture into the real
> world.
> >>
> >> For many years, dogs have had the ability to do
> this stuff for us, but
> >> the law did not allow them in public places.
> Finally law caught up
> >> with reality and we now have a legal right to have
> that trusty friend
> >> by our sides....not to show off how cute they are,
> not to just have a
> >> buddy with us....but to give us the ability to do
> the things that the
> >> rest of you take for granted. We have fought twice
> as hard to be
> >> considered half as good.
> >>
> >> When someone fakes a service animal, they are
> telling us that they do
> >> not care about our limitations. They don't
> care if we get ran over,
> >> attacked in the dark, leave a store without items
> we need because we
> >> can't reach them, ect. And everytime store
> personele sees an able
> >> bodied person with a fake service animal, it makes
> it that much harder
> >> for us to get them to accept ours as legit.
> >>
> >> Faking a service animal is no different than going
> around riding in a
> >> wheelchair just because you are too lazy to walk.
> Instead of faking a
> >> service animal, try instead to only take your pet
> places where they
> >> are welcomed.... .then thank god for giving you
> the ability to live a
> >> normal life.......because some of us are not that
> blessed..... .
> >>
> >> MArsha
> >>
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