Hi Charlierom,
I know this discussion is winding it's way over but I wanted to just share with 
you a few things that really helped me to understand the raw thing. I have 
always had dogs...I LOVE dogs!!! That love sent me on a search about 30 years 
ago to find the very best food I could feed them . I started doing tons of 
research...bought every book out there and started learniing all I could about 
K9 nutrition. I thought I found the perfect kibble...then. Back in those days 
the thinking was dry kibble with whole grain...not corn ....was best. 
Well...then that company started having issues...it was a big name...but they 
sold out to Proctor and Gamble...P&G changed formulas and started using the 
cheapest cr&*% available for ingredients...I changed foods...the same thing 
happened again with a different food. I became very frustrated and even in 
those 
days spending $50 a bag for what I thought was the best food...it should have 
been!!!! That frustration brought on homecooking...I learned to balance my dogs 
meals with 50/25/25 formulas at home. I was very fortunate to not have had to 
experience any fallouts from the recalls that began to take place because I was 
preparing their meals at home...many of my friends were not as lucky and lost 
dogs due to it!

I have never stopped doing research and trying to learn all I can...which led 
me 
to raw. There are MANY vets and MOST nutritionists have come to this conclusion 
as well...it is really an obvious one if you think about it. BUT...there 
was the 
ICK factor for me...It was hard to get past so I stayed with my home cooked 
balanced meals...UNTIL... my poodle started experiencing seizures. I did not 
want to put him on the usual protocol...NO drugs if possible...I wanted to find 
out why he was having the seizures FIRST...then treat. My first change was 
diet. 
After reading about Epi's in general...it seemed that diet was the first thing 
suggested to change. I removed anything suspisious which most Vets felt were 
grains...so out they went...then certain types of veggies...so out they went. 
Now I just basically was feeding them meat. More reading...especially from some 
email groups I am on that were on this path before me...and so I just made that 
jump to raw. SO MANY things changed so fast I can not begin to tell you how 
thrilled i was about them all. FIRST?? The seizures went immediately from about 
once a week to about every 39 days. Bad breath vanished...stools became way 
less, perfectly formed with little to no odor which told me that the digestive 
system was working well!...coats got thicker and softer and skin issues 
vanished...no more hot spots. Teeth became white and shiny...the tarter and 
plaque were GONE! Everyone had more energy and seemed way more balanced 
emotionally...all ear issues (yeast) went away...my dogs became 100% healthy!!! 
NOTHING i had ever done in the past...the supplements...the best kibble....the 
homemade diet of all ingredients impacted my dogs like the change to raw. So 
for 
me...raw feeding is a miracle...it IS the answer to everything!!! My Titers 
came 
out perfect this year so we were able to avoid many immunizations that 
most dogs 
have to have with an unhealthy immune system. This is the way dogs were 
designed 
to eat!!! I am sold!!! The world is changing when it comes to this issue. 
People 
like me who are seeing the AMAZING results are becoming CONVICTED of this 
choice. You will see many, many people standing on soap boxes and shouting from 
roof tops because they have "found the answer" to having a healthy, balanced 
dog! Not because they read something online...but because it changed their 
lives 
and that of their dogs!! When people have the experience and knowledge behind 
them...the TRUTH so to speak...it does become a conviction...something you will 
stand up for and fight for...I think that is why you see the "obsession" you 
noted in Darcey's post. I have the same obsession...and had I been around the 
computer more you would have gotten this reply then...fueled with all the 
passion I could muster behind it...because it is a truth for me. I watched it 
save my Nugget!! For the last 3 months now he has only experienced just one 
seizure...and a small one at that. His system is getting stronger...he 
is healing. I watched my whole pack blossom and change...changes I didn't even 
realize needed changing. 


Anyway all this to perhaps give you some compassion towards us ZEALOUS raw 
feeders!!! We are so excited I am afraid we just want everyone to see the truth 
as well. I know for me it almost took losing Nugget for me to push through the 
icky, unkown...but now that I have "crossed over"??? I will NEVER go back!!!
 Hugs In Him,
Deanna

And the Corey Crew:

Wife to my best friend: Mark-ie Pooh...married 29 years 6/27/10
Mom to 4 Children: Andrea 26, Jimmy 22, Baxter 19 and Molly 11
Grandma to 4: Lori, Evelyn Rose, Jack and Cameron

Mom to Fur babies:
Nugget (MiniPoodle)www.dogster.com/dogs/1085245,
Shuai-Li (Shih Tzu)www.dogster.com/dogs/1129251,
Bella-Rose (Pomeranian)http://www.dogster.com/dogs/1136706
Mouse (Chihuahua)www.dogster.com/dogs/1005934,
Myrtle May (Chihuahua)
and Caleb (Rott/chow mix)www.dogster.com/dogs/988612

Mom to feathered kids: Stella (Blue and Gold Macaw) and Stanley (Double Yellow 
Headed Amazon)

and the curtain climber: Miles www.catster.com/cats/895000 




________________________________
From: charlierom2003 <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thu, August 19, 2010 4:42:07 AM
Subject: [Chihuahuas] Re: Getting pups to eat dry food

  


It is clear from your posts here that you are obsessed with your raw meat diet 
and believe it is the answer to everything. The vast majority of veterenarians, 
animal nutritition experts, and experienced pet owners entirely disagree with 
your ideas. Feed your own animals whatever you choose, but please do not post 
false information as below, regarding the diets that other dog owners choose to 
provide for their animals.

--- In [email protected], Darcy Jacobs <flyway7...@...> wrote:
>
> dogs dont digest veggies or need them....only meats..organs and bones...
> darcy..
> 
> --- On Wed, 8/18/10, charlierom2003 <charlierom2...@...> wrote:
> 
> 
> From: charlierom2003 <charlierom2...@...>
> Subject: [Chihuahuas] Re: Getting pups to eat dry food
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 9:05 PM
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> Boil up a chicken leg and some carrot and brocolli, save the soup, take the 
>meat off the bone and chop up with the vegetables, put the soup and chopped 
>meat 
>and veg on the dry food, yummmmmy!
> 
> --- In [email protected], Melody Pedersen <harley_alex456@> wrote:
> >
> > Okay, well I have spoiled my puppies that need a good home.  I started 
> > them 
>out on 'ceaser puppy food'.  They have teeth, and I can not get them to eat 
>dry 
>food!! I have tried everything....any suggestions?  I'm sure their new 
>mommy's 
>would really appreciate it if they were eating dry food instead of the ceaser 
>puppy...its expensive!!  Please help!!  In two days they will be  8 weeks 
>old
> >
>


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