I tend to look at things logically.
One single 5 year old vet bill dated bill for $35/$40 dated back in
2006 does not mean that this vet has been seen on a regular
basis. Nor it indicate that Carol has even talked to or seen that
vet again during the past 5 years. This single photocopied 2006 vet
receipt interestingly corresponds with the photo copy of the AKC
papers Shar-peis . This doesn't verify that any Chihuhua was ever
seen nor X-rayed by this vet. What I'm saying is that I don't know
if Carol is a regular client of this vet or not. If she isn't, that
may be why he won't work with her now. If she is, then she should
really be talking to him more about saving Daisy's life.
AKC registration papers also say nothing about any given individual
having seen a specific vet - nor using any vet at all for that
matter. AKC paper only say that a dog is registered with the
AKC. These particular papers are also for a different Breed.
Based on the vet receipt, I must say, however, that this vet's prices
seem quite reasonable. Even five years ago, it cost me far more than
$40 just to walk into my vet's office - even without his doing any
tests or dispensing medications. I don't think that I've ever been
to the vet where a visit (even for something very minor) where it
didn't cost me over $100. Not even 10 years ago... So a $35 vet
bill seems very reasonable. However, I know that my vet is not the
least expensive one around. So that is a mood point. I truly wonder
what this vet does charge for a C-section. I sincerely doubt that it
is $2100 as first indicated by Carol. Carol then herself later
mentioned only $450. Anyone can see that there is a big
difference. But I don't understand the change in story.
Frankly, Carol asking $700 on this list (after someone here mentioned
that the pups sound like they may be cute) for just one of these
"accidental" puppies does somewhat ring of some sort of scam. I'm
not saying it is, but it does sound like it.
I'm not trying to be argumentative, but I am trying to fit the pieces
together here. Unfortunately, they don't quite fit. Especially
after another list member has said that she uses this same vet & the
vet actually will do "time payments" for regular clients. Emergency
clinics can be an entirely different matter. But we're not taking about them.
Frankly, I just can't image someone's regular vet (assuming there is
any sort of vet/client relationship) not being able to work with the
client to save a pet's life.
I've had one emergency C-section done myself by a friend's vet who
didn't know me at all. But that vet never said a single word about
payment until AFTER the surgery was done. He put saving the dog's
life ahead of asking for money. So I just can't image Carol's
inability to find at least one other vet in a 77 mile radius who
would be willing to work with her to save Daisy's life.
So as I said last night, I'm moving on. If someone else feels this
entire story is legitimate and they can help Carol, good luck.
However if Carol doesn't get Daisy proper help and if Daisy dies, it
is not anyone on this group's fault. Many of us have tried to
provide helpful advice. That's all we can do. This entire matter
is really Carol and her granddaughter's responsibility - not ours.
There were 4 mistakes that lead to this:
1) Giving an irresponsible teenager a dog that she obviously cares
nothing about
2) Not having that very tiny female (who should never be allowed to
become pregnant) IMMEDIATELY spayed when it was seen having
sex. Obviously, there were a good odds that that sexual encounter
could lead to a pregnancy. That shouldn't have been ignored but was.
3) Waiting until the 11th Hour before pending delivery to ask for advice
4) An unwillingness to take any of the advice that has been asked for.
None of these mistakes have anything to do with anyone else on this
list. So Daisy's fate lies in Carol's hands; not ours.
There are 4 known parties actually involved in this drama
1) Carol the grandmother, who gave the dog to an irresponsible
teenager and who did NOT insist on a immediate spay when the very
tiny, helpless Chihuahua got bred
2) Becky the irresponsible teenage who allowed the dog to be bred and
who now doesn't care if the Chihuahua lives or dies
3) Becky's boyfriend, the owner of the Yorkie who did the deed
4) Daisy's original Breeder. This is a pregnant 8 month old
puppy!!! I can't believe the Breeder hasn't been contacted and has
offered some help. The original Breeder could take Daisy back (and
not on just a temporary basis) to provide her with the care she
needs. And then, later rehome her with a more responsible
family. However, it is pretty obvious that that particular Breeder
probably washed her hands of Daisy once she got the pup out of her house.
If Daisy dies, it is the responsibility of the above 4 individuals -
not us here. We can only offer suggestions, but we can't solve the
problem - especially when our suggestions are ignored.
I still want to know what happened to Starbucks: the other
Chihuahua. Did he get proper medical care? If so, who treated
him? Is he even still alive? The good news is that in the photos
Daisy looks to be larger than a 2 pound Chihuahua as was first
indicated. I was greatly relieved to see that.
Whatever the truth is in this entire matter, I hope that Daisy the
Chihuahua somehow manages to survive. And that no more Chihuahuas
pass through this family.
Carol, rather than posting us here and blaming us when we don't give
you the answers you want to hear, get on the phone and find a vet who
will help Daisy. We can't!!! Daisy needs you - not us - to take
action. You have been given plenty of suggestions as to how this
situation might be handled. Please take some action before it is too late.
Liz