Yes the aggressive dog subject is usually a hot topic for sure. With opinions on each side of the fence and some in the middle. But usually opinions are formed based on experience either personally or from someone you know. 20 years ago, I was out walking my two Chihuahuas and stopped to chat with some neighbors who were sitting on their porch. My dogs as always were on leash. The neighbor's 12 year old daughter came out to mush my dogs, whom she loved. She went back in to get them a treat and their pit bull came crashing out of the screen door. This was another example of the sweet, wouldn' t hurt a flea family pit bull. He, before I could make a move, grabbed one of my Chis and snapped his spine. I was in the process of grabbing the other one when he leaped and sunk his jaws into the side of Shadow's ribcage..just missing the spine as I was in the process of grabbing him up to me. It took 75 stitches but Shadow lived..sort of..always crippled up until he passed. Do you know what happened to the pitt..he made the dangerous dog list..with his picture and where he lived..No Kharma there...Personally I think there should be legislation on whom can own aggressive breed dogs and what kind of training they must have. Pam M
From: sheila <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2011 2:51 PM Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Need help please I don’t think it is simplistic at all. Apparently if it is a neighbor, she sees her all the time. That is different than strangers on a strange street. Never said anything about not calling animal control. Most people would feel that way simply because the dog is a “pit”. which is what I got from the post and that IMO is a unfair. From: Pam Dean Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 9:08 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Need help please That is a touch simplistic. There are laws, for good reason, in some areas, that regulate whether or not you are allowed to have your animal off leash. If you do not know the owner, or the dog, you can not trust that that particular animal is "under control". It is your right to call the authorities. And being human, some of us, myself included, have a problem with aggressive dog breeds..pit included. To see one unrestrained and be subjected to a fear for yourself or your family..sorry I would call the authorities too. Pam M From: sheila <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2011 5:23 AM Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Need help please Is the dog under control? That should be all that matters, not the breed. From: Joan Croft Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 11:51 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [Chihuahuas] Need help please There is a lady down the cul-de-sac who has a pit bull…when her and her 2 yo daughter go for the mail, the pit comes too…without a leash. The next time that I see that, from inside my house, I will call animal control. Joan, Dolly Dee & Desi Lou From:[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pam Dean Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 4:36 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Need help please Yep..unfortunately I don't want to be involved with them when it does. And don't even get me started when they don't leash their dogs. We have a lady with a young Pit next door, and she will let him run sometimes. Now don't want to start a flame but personally not the breed for me..ever..and he comes running all over my property. I have tried to politely tell her "keep ur darn Pit on ur property" but of course she ignores that. From:Rebecca Bate <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2011 5:18 AM Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Need help please I think people like that are just a disaster waiting to happen! My 6 year old can walk our danes! I took Daisy trick or treating with my daughter and I, if at any point I had to help my daughter all I had to say to Daisy was "down" (1 time) and she would go into a down and then I have my hands free to help my daughter. I think having a large untrained dog is very irresponsible! Rebecca From:Joan Croft <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, November 2, 2011 12:46 AM Subject: RE: [Chihuahuas] Need help please Dolly & Desi start to make a scene and then that stresses the big dog and the closer the big dog gets, the more viscious looking and sounding Dolly & Desi get. There is this one lady in the neighborhood…maybe weighs 100 if even that much, and she walks two Akitas. She literally looks like she is being dragged. I often wondered what would happen if those dogs got excited about something or someone….I can picture her being dragged down the sidewalk like the Alaskan huskies drag the sleighs. Joan, Dolly Dee & Desi Lou From:[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pam Dean Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 7:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Need help please I have to say Rebecca you brought up one of my pet peeves. People who have large dogs, who do either not take the time or have no clue on training them. I don't know how many times I have been out with my little ones and here is some out of control tank dragging their owner and terrorizing me and my dogs. Mine are freaking out, and I am trying to pick up both of them..it is so stressful and unnecessary..Grrrrr..ok rant over..lol From:Rebecca <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2011 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Need help please Ok I may get in trouble for posting an unpopular opinion. Let me first say I have two advanced train great Danes. Correct both of them for fighting. You are the boss. Correct firmly! Correct every time. I am afraid altering is not always the cure-all everyone hopes. I had a food aggressive, dominant bitch, pushy, female Dane. She was AWFUL. with firm training she is an amazing girl!!! She is stable around anyone! Rebecca Sent from my iPhone On Nov 1, 2011, at 3:12 PM, "flopo" <[email protected]> wrote: >Excuse me, but I am not procrastinating. Our vets are very good with cows and >horses, not dogs, and not little dogs. It's not a matter of money or >procrastination, I love my dogs very much and they are very well cared for. >One who procrastinates, replaces high-priority acts with those of low >priority, and this is not the case. > >Pam Briar > > > > >-------Original Message------- > > >From:Joan Croft >Date:01/11/2011 11:26:30 AM >To:[email protected] >Subject:RE: [Chihuahuas] Need help please > > >When I was a kid we had two males – each part Chihuahua – one part Fox Terrier >and one part Beagle. They would have the same kind of spats as Dolly & Desi >do, but never violent towards each other. > >Joan, Dolly Dee & Desi Lou > >From:[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >Of Judy Moon >Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 5:58 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: RE: [Chihuahuas] Need help please > > >Get them neutered or you will always have this problem. Neutering is very >cheap and any vet can do it. Quite procrastinating. Sooner or later one dog >will kill or injure the other badly enough to cost you lots more than >neutering would have. > >Judy Moon, a prayer warrior in Christ's army >"May grace and spiritual peace be yours from God our Father and from the Lord >Jesus Christ." > >From:[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf >Of flopo >Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 9:29 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [Chihuahuas] Need help please > > >No they are not neutered, for a variety of reasons, but mostly because I don't >really trust any of the vets within about a hundred miles and Bruiser has a >heart problem. We live in a very rural area in western Canada. The problem >is, I don't know which one to punish. Bruiser is very dominating and I can >understand why Monster just gets sick of it. They start growling at each >other when there is any excitement around them, I intervene at that point, if >I don't within a few seconds they are on each other. I don't think much >happens when I'm not around, because they don't excited. > >Thank you, >Pam > > > > >-------Original Message------- > > >From:Pam Dean >Date:31/10/2011 8:41:08 PM >To:[email protected] >Subject:Re: [Chihuahuas] Need help please > > >My first question would be are they both neutered?? If not, they seriously >need to be. If it is not hormonal, but domination, then I will share a >shortened version of my story when I met my husband. He had a very psycho >Jack russell who did not play well with others and I had my two Chihuahus. >All three were males..but his is a large 23 pounds and mine 3 and 6 pounds..no >contest. His Jack would just attack for no reason and I could never leave >them alone together fearing injury to mine. He had never neutered Jack whi ch >was adding to the problem so we had him neutered. That helped some..but >basically what I had to make Jack understand was I was alpha in the pecking >order. If he attacked the Chis, it had consequences..Not only was Mommy >seriously unhappy but he was chastized and separated in another part of the >house. He is not fed first, given treats first, or treated as Alpha in the >pecking order. If any of the three starts trouble, they are equally chastized. I still don't trust Jack enough to leave them together when I leave the house..my Chis are in the bedroom, but under my watchful eye, he behaves.. > >Pam M > >From:flopo <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 11:18 PM >Subject: [Chihuahuas] Need help please > > >Hi, >I've been around for a while but don't post very often, mostly lurk, but now I >need help. I have two chis, both girls, I have Bruiser and the "other" >Monster. We rescued them both off the road near our house about three years >ago. They were dumped in March in very bad weather in an area heavy with >coyotes, (an unfortunate but common practice here). > >Anyway, Monster was a juvenile at the time, Bruiser, a young adult. Bruiser >was the Alpha of the two, well as time goes by, Monster is now bigger and >struggling to take over the Alpha spot. > >Poor Bruiser doesn't want to give it up, and as a result has lost two front >teeth and has an assortment of other minor cuts and abrasions. I have tried >EVERYTHING I know to stop them from fighting. > >PLEASE! If anyone can suggest anything I would appreciate it! > >Thanks, >Pam > > >No virus found in this message.Checked by AVG - www.avg.comVersion: >2012.0.1834 / Virus Database: 2092/4588 - Release Date: 10/31/11 > > >Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic >Messages in this topic (12) >Recent Activity:
