I am a huge advocate of spaying and neutering..just walking through the shelters will do that to you. My last two rescues were on death row and both not neutered. Does it send a red flag up for me when someone does not spay or neuter their pet? Yes because a large majority of these people do not care for their pet properly and that is part of it. Not only does it put the female at risk for getting pregnant but in the male's case it is added incentive for them to run and get lost. Hormones rule. Also any vet will tell you not spaying or neutering adds greatly to the odds of getting cancers in both sexes. Add that all up and there is that red flag. But that said sometimes we have to do the best we can. There are options out there to help for those who truly seek them out not only for spaying and/or neutering but lost cost vaccinations. I do not think it is a case of prejudging..more a case of making the informed decision. There is too much evidence to ignore and if you do, then a lot of people are going to think you do not care.
Pam M ________________________________ From: Joan <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2012 1:33 PM Subject: [Chihuahuas] Re: My baby girl is in heat oh my Barry... It is WRONG to prejudge. You are labeling everyone who does not spay/neuter their dog as an animal abuser???? How is that animal abuse, letting her chi go the way God made her. Perhaps to some good dog owners, spaying or neutering a dog is abuse if there is nothing medically wrong with the little dog. Yes...both of mine are spayed/neutered. I knew that I didn't want to breed them; and I had to give up things to get them spayed/neutered. With only Dolly, I got her spayed...I had no intention of breeding her, and it was because where I live all dogs/cats must be spayed/neutered by the time that they are 3 months old. The vet wouldn't do it then because she was too tiny, and so she was 5 1/2 months when she was spayed. Desi was neutered at 3 months even though he was small because he had a potentially serious problem with his testicle. I would have had him neutered anyway, but it was MY choice as the owner to get them spayed/neutered. Someone that posts that their dog is in heat, is not a sign of being an animal abuser. And, if someone was an animal abuser, do you think that they would post anything on an open forum. IMHO, if you have a companion dog that has no access to getting out, and the owner is responsible, then it is their choice. I know that there are a lot of animals in the shelters. I know that there are a lot of Chis in the shelters. I know that some who rescue take the 'underdogs' and they have suffered abuse and have the signs of it. Some are in the shelter because they were not trained correctly and become a safety risk to small children and other people because they are 'ankle biters'. Some are in the shelters because of the ECONOMY. Those that have bad personalities, I wouldn't consider their owners abusers; and those who have had to make a choice between feeding themselves and their family or feeding the dog and going without food themselves...what are they??? Are they abusers??? I would think that if they kept the dog and didn't feed their children it would be child abuse. Just my two cents worth. --- In [email protected], broo mist <broomist@...> wrote: > > I'm sorry, but when I first decided to get into (pit bull) rescue, I faced > a GREAT DEAL of "prejudging" - and ALL of it was justified. > > Going "on the defensive" where dogs are concerned is ALWAYS justified. > Just because I WAS/AM a 100% reliable and honorable "do gooder" did NOT > mean the folks who "looked askance" at me were (in any way) "wrong". > > QUITE the contrary. It meant thet were willing to be "politically > incorrect" if it decreased the risk to a defenseless animal. When someone > hits a public forum with their "oh no my dog in heat oh no I just found an > intact mail" they should be looked at as a scammer or potential abuser" > until they prove otherwise... the dogs deserve that much. > > The "bad guys" outnumber the "good guys" 10-to-1, and the good guys WILL > stick around to understand and forgive. Time to grow up and not get all > offended so easily.... when I taught school I saw some GREAT educator go to > the wall and risk their reputations/careers on the CHANCE one of their kids > was being abused/molested, and there was NO WAY they could have or should > have done otherwise. > > Capische? > > Honest. > > Barry/Chicago > > On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 2:46 AM, Kim Rich <kimrich0218@...> wrote: > > > ** > > > > > > Well she is not around any other dogs to get prego. I dont let her be > > around other animals. just with me were ever I go. I was told to get her > > from my doctors. Ive changed a lot since I got her. she only goes out when > > I take her out on leash to go potty and I promise this much she is not > > gonna get prego cause she is by my side 24/7. > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* Charlene ** > > *To:* "[email protected]" ** > > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 25, 2012 4:56 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [Chihuahuas] My baby girl is in heat oh my > > > > > > > > Call the local ASPCA, they may know of a place/vet that they work > > with........it is worth a phone call to see. If they aren't inclined to be > > of assistance try calling....no scratch that.........go to the Vet's office > > at about closing time/opening time and ask if the doctor/vet has a couple > > of minutes to spare. > > You might need to drop by a few times until you are sure who the vet is. > > Explain what the issue is and he might be-able to help you out or know of > > some program that can help. Also dog rescue places in the area, they might > > have a way of helping you. We sure don't want that little lady getting > > caught. > > If you explained the situation to your own vet maybe you can work out > > something with him/her. Maybe he would work for cake/pie each month or > > something.....just be creative. Sit on a street corner with a sign saying > > my dog needs to be spayed...can you help...who knows, maybe a vet will > > drive by. > > Charlene.....Oklahoma > > Strangers Are Friends.....Not Yet Met > > To See GOD'S Wonders.....Travel > > Cook Like You Love It.....Even If You Don't > > (2011 Fleetwood Tara MH 34ft) > > > > *From:* Valerie Mockett > > *To:* "[email protected]" > > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 25, 2012 1:33 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [Chihuahuas] My baby girl is in heat oh my [1 Attachment] > > > > > > No one sould judge!!!! Merry Christmas > > > > > > *From:* Kim Rich > > *To:* "[email protected]" > > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 25, 2012 12:18 AM > > *Subject:* Re: [Chihuahuas] My baby girl is in heat oh my > > > > SEARCY , ARKANSAS IS THE CLOSET PLACE TO ME . LITTLE ROCK IS BOUT A HR > > FROM ME I NOT SURE WERE FORT SMITH IS . I KNOW CABOT , ARKANSAS IS CLOSE TO > > ME ALSO . AND SO IS KENNSETT , ARKANSAS . I CANT DRIVE CAUSE OF SEIZURES > > AND HEALTH ISSUES WITH BREATHING . THANK YOU SO MUCH MARE FOR NOT JUDGING > > ME . > > > > *From:* "okiemare@..." > > *To:* [email protected] > > *Sent:* Tuesday, December 18, 2012 1:37 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [Chihuahuas] My baby girl is in heat oh my > > > > Kim > > What larger town is Beebe close to? > > Little Rock or Fort Smith or? > > I have a friend in Arkansas that can probably help. > > I would never judge someone just because they have poor finances. > > Mare > > > > > > > > > > *-------Original Message-------* > > > > *From:* Kim Rich <kimrich0218@...> > > *Date:* 12/18/2012 1:24:40 PM > > *To:* [email protected] > > *Subject:* Re: [Chihuahuas] My baby girl is in heat oh my > > > > > > IM IN BEEBE , ARKANSAS . AND WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO GET HER FIXED . > > *From:* Raven > > *To:* [email protected] > > *Sent:* Monday, December 17, 2012 9:37 PM > > *Subject:* Re: [Chihuahuas] My baby girl is in heat oh my > > > > >> ON A FIXED INCOME AND DISABILED AND A CANCER PATIENT . SHE IS THE ONLY > > ANIMAL I HAVE NOW . I PLAN ON GETING HER FIXED If you tell me where you are > > located, I may be able to help you find someone to help you with the > > spaying expense. :) Raven > > > > > > > > > > > > >
