I am sorry ladies but this subject is becoming heated and old at the same time. I am not going to get involved. My dogs are taken care of since I no longer breed and yes I was a reputable breeder. I have the AKC Breeder Certificate Of Merit to prove it. So on that light I am out of this conversation and have hopes it will end soon. I suggest we talk what we did for our babies for Christmas or something. Mare In Oklahoma

