Organization for the Advancement of Structured Information Standards 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OASIS_(organization) did it with open document 
formats. I think Microsoft joined that one with the 2007 issue of MS Office so 
therer's still hope.

>     On 21/02/2021 13:11 Eric Oyen via chirp_users 
> <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>     Actually, that is not a bad idea all things considered. An open API that 
> is standard regardless of OS would make life a lot easier for both the coders 
> and users. Unfortunately, try convincing both Apple and Microsoft of this. 
> Perhaps something like the UEFI consortium might work to get this to happen.
> 
>     DE n7zzt Eric
> 
> 
> 
>         > >         On Feb 21, 2021, at 9:14 AM, Chuck Hast <kp4...@gmail.com 
> mailto:kp4...@gmail.com > wrote:
> >         I think that this is one that the proprietary folks could take a
> >         lesson from Open Source, I know several people who use
> >         Chirp on Linux for the open screen reader interface. I think it
> >         is time that those two groups stump up and write code that
> >         will use the open API rather than force the Chirp coders to
> >         code for their proprietary interfaces. They have enough on
> >         their plates keeping up with all of the other stuff. Knowing 
> >         that I have vision limited friends who happily use Linux for
> >         the screen reader interface nulls that whole Chirp should
> >         meet MS/Apple API's. Sorry but they either need to cut
> >         bait or get off the dock. 
> > 
> >         On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 7:54 AM Nigel A. Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF 
> > <ni...@ngunn.net mailto:ni...@ngunn.net > wrote:
> > 
> >             > > > If Chirp is properly screen reader complient on Linux but 
> > not on Windows or MACOS then I suggest you contact Microsoft and Apple and 
> > ask them to make their screen readers more complient with the open standard 
> > used by your Linux screen reader.
> > >             .
> > > 
> > >             > On 21/02/2021 03:54 Eric Oyen via chirp_users 
> > > <chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com 
> > > mailto:chirp_users@intrepid.danplanet.com > wrote:
> > >             >
> > >             > 
> > >             > Hello users and devs.
> > >             >
> > >             > I recently acquired some new radios. These are definitely 
> > > for the prepper set (as I am one besides being a ham).
> > >             >
> > >             > The radio is the Retevus H-777 and it’s little brother, the 
> > > H-777s. Both are programmable using a standard 2 pin kenwood style 
> > > programming cable. I recently asked for assistance from that company 
> > > because their in house software had some issues that prevented it working 
> > > with my screen reader (much like your package which has the same issues 
> > > btw). However, with a bit of visual assistance, I was able to reprogram 
> > > these radios for the 70cm ham band. Now, I gave that company the primary 
> > > web site and asked if they would send over the data and let you guys have 
> > > a whack at it. Maybe they will and maybe they won’t. If they do, then you 
> > > know who to thank for it.
> > >             >
> > >             > On another matter, I am going to ask this again, are you 
> > > guys ever going to make your package properly screen reader accessible on 
> > > either the windows or OS X platforms? I know it is on Linux, but then, I 
> > > am a techie. However, there are many blind or visually impaired hams out 
> > > there (as well as others in the GMRS, FRS and other communities) that 
> > > aren’t and have to depend on outside people to program their equipment. 
> > > Now, I know all the excuses, including complexity of coding, etc. 
> > > However, there are code snippets and libraries available that can be 
> > > incorprated into the primary CHIRP program without too much difficulty. 
> > > Lord knows, I’ve done enough reading on it. However, I have no experience 
> > > in coding, so it would be inappropriate to ask me to fork the project 
> > > just to add this functionality. Now, I will probably hear from more than 
> > > a few of you stating that I represent a “niche market”. That may have 
> > > been true 20 years ago, but not anymore. Our numbers are growing and we 
> > > are appearing in more communities. Now, far be it for me to point this 
> > > out, but seriously, wouldn’t you want to be on board with the Woke Train 
> > > here, touting your software package as diversity and inclusive compliant? 
> > > It would certainly make your package more appealing than it already is. 
> > > Of course, if you don’t want to be inclusive or exercise some action 
> > > toward diversity, that is your decision. In any case, I thought I would 
> > > point this out.
> > >             >
> > >             > Anyway, I hope that company I wrote to sends you the data 
> > > to add the H777 and it’s cousin the H777s to you to add it to the 
> > > supported radios matrix.
> > >             >
> > >             > Oh, and if you want to experiment with a set, they can be 
> > > had for cheap on amazon (about $35 for a pair of the H-777s radios).
> > >             >
> > >             > Thank you,
> > >             >
> > >             > DE n7zzt Eric
> > >             >
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> > >         > > 
> > 
> >         --
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> >         Celestial!!!
> >         Chuck -- KP4DJT
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